Re: Trick Flow heads
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IMO, more than 30hp for a tenth, a lot more. At 3800lbs, going from 11.50 to 11.40, the moroso chart shows it would take 13hp, about the same for going from 115mph to 116mph.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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IMO, more than 30hp for a tenth, a lot more. At 3800lbs, going from 11.50 to 11.40, the moroso chart shows it would take 13hp, about the same for going from 115mph to 116mph. Yep, about right. Heck at 30 horse for a tenth, that would be only a little better than 3 tenths with a hundred horsepower gain... Lol 100 horse change is WAY more than 3+ tenths. I saw exactly a tenth( as did my brother with his car at the same time) when we both went to electric water pumps and electric fans years ago. We figured a 12-15 horse change, and it indeed showed up as a tenth on our time slips.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Did you try the 1050/4500 on an adapter, on the TF manifold?
The TF intake 1050/4150 combo was 5hp better than the unported M1/4500 combo? I did try the Dominator on the TF intake using a Wilson adapter and it sucked. Lost 20 hp when compared to the 1050-AN QF carb.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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I guess I didn't expect there to be that much difference, one way or the other.
Just shows how easy it is to bolt combinations of stuff on that doesn't work.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Did you try the 1050/4500 on an adapter, on the TF manifold?
The TF intake 1050/4150 combo was 5hp better than the unported M1/4500 combo? I did try the Dominator on the TF intake using a Wilson adapter and it sucked. Lost 20 hp when compared to the 1050-AN QF carb. Was that the tall adapter/spacer and was it blended into the plenum? Easy to say the dommy sucked w/out a TALL adapter blended into the plenum..........maybe I should ship you my intake and carb for a test.............
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Here are a couple of pulls from inside the dyno cell: https://youtu.be/8oLyIhDdKwwEngine is making around 720 hp @ 6600 rpm on these pulls. Using a very tall open spacer with a merge insert on top of the Wilson intake. The rocker arms start to throw off of a lot of oil at the top of the run but the oil clears off as soon as the RPM drops.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Did you try the 1050/4500 on an adapter, on the TF manifold?
The TF intake 1050/4150 combo was 5hp better than the unported M1/4500 combo? I did try the Dominator on the TF intake using a Wilson adapter and it sucked. Lost 20 hp when compared to the 1050-AN QF carb. It's easy to sit here on the computer and "spend your money", but I'd love to see that test done with a 1050/4500 on top of an HVH 4500/4150 super sucker adapter.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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So, how would this be for a "Drag Week" type build? The heads on Andy's dyno mule have had a few parts changes since the first pull..... But IMO, the ootb roller springs/retainers, along with 1.5 rockers(zero power loss in that combo) and some decent lifters(as in someone's premium lifter)....... Keep it under 7k..... Should work fine.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Andy, are you still going to test the M1 tunnel ram? Getting ready to do just that.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Andy, are you still going to test the M1 tunnel ram? Getting ready to do just that. Are those the "Magical" 500 cfm Eddie carbs?
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