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I am about to start work on my Mom's 68 road runner that has been in my family since new. My Dad bought it new in July 1968 for my mother. Two weeks later we drove it to Sebago Lake Maine from Louisville Ky, with Mom & Dad , two of my sisters, plus myself and Dad's 16ft MFG runabout in tow. It has survived my teenage years, as well as two of my sisters, driving it with only minor damage. It still has the original engine and trans, but had a number of rear ends, including 2 repairs at the dealer while under warranty! I overhauled the 383 in 1985, and it still runs great now. I have built a 470" engine to replace it for a while so I can go thru the 383 again. The trunk and quarters need to be replaced and I will start on that this winter. The parts are here now. The color on the car is not original, I painted it in 1981 and changed it from the FF1 Frost Green. I am now going back to the orig, color. The repaint was in lacquer and has long since died. Mark
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Cool story and love the car! Looking forward to the progress pics!
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My mom drove a triple green 70 Charger R/T SE that they bought new in 1970. They sold it in 1982.
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We didn't even see the car until the deal was done. It was in the basement of the dealership. Met my girlfriends mothers boyfriend ( did you get all that) when I was dating her 5 or so years ago.. He had purchased a 67 corvette from a dealer (brand new) and it was in a warehouse in Portland ( two hours away)... He drove to Portland to get it but had to wait for hours as they had to move all the cars in the way ( all new cars also) out first to get to the vette.. Seems as if the vette had ALOT of dust on it and he had to have it washed before he could drive it home... different times.........
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Awesome! Neat story and what a great car to have in the family. Looking forward to seeing the build and finished product.
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Thanks Guys! I am getting charged up for the work ahead! LOL I really don't plan on changing the wheels , other than maybe going to 15" from the 14"s that are on the car now. Funny thing about the rear end issues. I would drive the car and notice the rear end "clunking" when I made sharp turns at the local Big Boy drive in. I would report it to my Dad, and he was sure I had been up to no good with Mom's car. So this happened twice under the 5 year 50,000 mile warranty. I never new the real cause until about 20 years later. In a discussion with my sister, she talked about how much fun she had driving the car with her girl friends and kicking it going around turns to make it "fish tale" !
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Hmmm.... a lot of "Little Old Ladies" driving Muscular Mopars! My buddy's mother had a green with white vinyl top 69 road runner. Makes me wonder if "The Little Ol'Lady from Pasadena" was for real ? LOL
Mark A mom in our neighborhood drove the family 67 4 speed GTO. Dad lost his license. They later got a pink AMX with the Pierre Cardin interior.
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Thanks Guys! I am getting charged up for the work ahead! LOL I really don't plan on changing the wheels , other than maybe going to 15" from the 14"s that are on the car now. Funny thing about the rear end issues. I would drive the car and notice the rear end "clunking" when I made sharp turns at the local Big Boy drive in. I would report it to my Dad, and he was sure I had been up to no good with Mom's car. So this happened twice under the 5 year 50,000 mile warranty. I never new the real cause until about 20 years later. In a discussion with my sister, she talked about how much fun she had driving the car with her girl friends and kicking it going around turns to make it "fish tale" ! If it's clunking when making turns you may want to add some differential additive assuming it's a Suregrip.
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We ran the 470" engine I built for the car on the dyno back in Oct. It's pretty stout for what it is. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2396623/1.html So, I am going to do some tranny and rear end upgrades before I put it in the car. I don't want to blow the trans. So I will start on the body. I need to keep the car moving under it's own power as long as possible, since I work by myself most of the time, and my lot in front of the garage is not level, and in fact uphill . Another challenge . Mark
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I love the current color. What is wrong with the trunk and quarters? Repairs under the paint? The current color is 72 Corvette Elkhart Green . I painted it with lacquer. (1981) The last color coats were cut with clear, then top coated with the clear. It changed the factory color quite a bit, almost candy like in the sun. I had recently painted a friends Corvette and I liked the color. The trunk was rusted through and I covered damage in fiberglass cloth and epoxy resin. It has held up well, but I am ready to do it right now. I just started removing that old material in chunks and the holes are now easy to see. The quarters were badly rusted as well, and the repairs made have held up well, but the car deserves much better. I have new AMD parts now to do it right. It was a daily driver, and never garaged until 1982 after the repaint, it came inside. Thanks, Mark
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Old pictures out in the sunlight when the repaint was still in good shape. It's been this color for so long my friends don't remember the original color on the car ! Mark
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These pics show the need for the new parts. In 1981, the RR was showing the signs of having had three teens driving it, plus sitting outside. It still ran good, but the interior, paint, door hinges etc. were pretty bad. Mom had driven it looking this way for long enough, Dad bought her a new car, and they gave the RR to me. I fixed up as economically as I could. Having just started a very small bodyshop business and time and money were scarce. My dad worked for a chemical company and I was given some products free for "field testing" . Epoxy resin, various primers, and a urethane clear that he formulated, among other useful materials. I used some of these in the RR repairs as experiments in rust repair.
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Cool story and a neat project!
When I was in HS (early '80's) I had a friend who's parents had a V code '70 'Cuda. They had bought it in '71 or '72. The Dad liked fast cars (or at least looked fast) but it had never been anything more than family transportation. It was used for family vacations and the Mom used it for her daily for a number of years. The 'funny' part about that was the 'Cuda had manual steering and she stood 5' even and weighed maybe 100 lbs soaking wet. At some point a 383 4bbl was swapped in, but all the parts off the original engine had been kept.
Last time I saw my friend and the car was about 1990. The 'Cuda was just sitting and he was insisting he was gonna restore it.
Went past the house in 2011 and not only was the 'Cuda long gone, but so was the whole dang house! Never did find out what ultimately happened to the car or my friend.
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Very impressive,works looking great!Good luck!
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Doing a great job here. The work looks outstanding. Wish I had that skill level. I have a car sitting here, that I drove around in the 80's Ten years after high school for me. It is a 68 Coronette 500, that I bought from a friend, that inherited it from his Mom. There is something about Moms in Mopars. They seem to be great Moms.
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understandable. I have no idea of the cost of a beefed up 727, but when you find out, compare that to the cost of the swap. Passion's/Brewers have the kits now, and used 4 speeds are pretty easy to find. And you don't have to buy it all at once.
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Big inch engines work nice with automatics and it came from the factory that way. I'd leave it. I will most likely leave it as an automatic for this reason. Thanks, Mark
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The first '69 I had was auto. One thing I really liked about the auto was when it shifted to second it chirped the tires.
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The first '69 I had was auto. One thing I really liked about the auto was when it shifted to second it chirped the tires. I like that too ! Mark
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Big inch engines work nice with automatics and it came from the factory that way. I'd leave it. I agree,I don't know your age but the older you get the more you will like the 727. I've got two 4 speeds and one with a 727. I seem to be getting too old or lazy for the 4 speeds.
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Big inch engines work nice with automatics and it came from the factory that way. I'd leave it. I agree,I don't know your age but the older you get the more you will like the 727. I've got two 4 speeds and one with a 727. I seem to be getting too old or lazy for the 4 speeds. I am 68 . You are probably right, and I will be glad in the future that I kept it an automatic. Mark
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Nice work. A clean car is becoming even cleaner. Thanks Sheldon ! I appreciate that very much. Mark
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Awesome work, Mark!!!! Greg
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That car is coming along really well, I am seriously jealous about having the repair panels, my last few cars that i did have no new sheetmetal available. From this thread you can see substantial amount of work to install them and you need talent and the right tools to do it well. . Looking really good and will keep folowing the build. Thanks modelmakerinc. I know what it is like to not have new sheet metal available, and it is a whole different challenge for sure ! It is a blessing to be able to buy sheet metal for this car. The quality has been good so far. I appreciate the kind words very much , and I will try and keep this project moving forward as best I can. Mark
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great pic but the first thing I thought of was the Panther Pink '70 road runner that was in MCG years ago that had been used to pull a boat. Most of the whole back end was toast from the salt water the boat was used on.
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Awesome, great to hear "one family owner" stories. How did your parents end up picking out this car?
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Thanks Jeff968 . Mom needed a new car we, (my sisters and I) had beat on the family 1963 Galaxie 500 nearly to death in less than 100K. Road Runners were popular amungst teens. They were advertized a lot and at a good price. Dad wanted to pull his boat to Maine and take the family (5 on this trip). My sister and I pleaded a lot with Mom and Dad , She was 18 and I was 17 . Mom agreed to the four speed as that was standard equipment. The dealer wouldn't make a deal on the 4 speed cars though. The car offered plenty of power, and heavy duty suspension so it would be great pulling the boat and there was enough room inside for the five of us including my 6 year old little sister. Dad hated the HD suspension. He was used to his cushy riding old 1961 T-Bird . But he was impressed with the performance of road runner ! Mom loved it. She had her stories of victory on the street when some kids laughed at the old Lady driving the road runner. Great memories.
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great stories, wonder how many gear heads had "the old lady" show'm her tail lights! Thanks basketcase. I know it happened a couple times for sure. I think my sisters have stories of their own . I know one of them broke the speedometer where it is staying about 70 when the car was parked. The girls aren't talking to me about it ! LOL I promised my Dad I would not modify or race Mom's car when he agreed to buy it and I kept my word, and I never really raced it or abused the car. I would just blow the carbon out once in a while. Mark
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Looking Good ! Amazing how similar that color is to what I used on Mom's car. Very nice Dave ! Mark
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Nice work. How are you fitting the quarter under the roof skin? I have to do pretty much the same work you are doing on my car.
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Nice work. How are you fitting the quarter under the roof skin? I have to do pretty much the same work you are doing on my car. Thanks Road Runner! Sorry for the delayed response. What I have done, is to test fit the quarter panel to the body and mark a line on the tab on the new qtr. pnl. that fits under the roof skin welding tab to allow for overlap . I then cut off the excess and bend the roof tabs up enough to allow the panel tabs to be in proper position . It helps to make some small cuts in the roof tab, so I am bending up smaller sections at a time. I can then tap the roof tab down and weld into place. I want to leave enough of the tab to overlap and weld to when the roof tab is tapped down. I hope this helps. Mark
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It always seems to make a project take a giant leap when you get that big new 1/4 hung, especially when you know all the work it took to get there. Great job!
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Thanks DynoDave. I really don't know how many hours I have in it. I had it off and on many times to trim it somewhere or some other prep work to either the quarter panel of the body. I am glad that I don't have to rush this , and that's good thing, because I am moving a lot slower these days. Somewhere I have a copy of the Crash Estimating Guide page for 1969 Road Runners and it lists the hours for R&I but that wasn't for 50 year old examples . IIRC it was like 17 Hours for just the quarter. I will see if I still have it. Mark
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Some years back, 2012 to be exact. I was repairing a show quality 69 Road Runner that had been hit and run on the side. It was an insurance claim and I needed a guide for estimating. Another member here on Moparts, helped out with this page from an old crash manual. Dig those part prices ! Mark
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Re: Mom's 68 road runner
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There are two decals on the car that bring back the memories. The windshield sticker for my high school parking permit is one. My sister and I both graduated from this school and Mom was a substitute teacher there too. Is is no longer a high school these days but rather a middle school. The other is an ISCA decal from when we put the car in the Carl Casper show in Louisville Ky 1983 I think in this picture. It was a family deal. That is my little sister in the picture. She painted the sign, Dad made the spindles , Mom sat with her car and talked with folks about her car. We called the car"Grandma's Grocery Getter ". I am thinking on reusing the windshield to save the parking permit.
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Re: Mom's 68 road runner
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Thanks Dave ! It's not too bad. It has some slight wiper marks. They may polish out. At least that is my plan right now. Mark
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Re: Mom's 68 road runner
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In the fall of 1979 I quit my job as a residential electrician . My job was primarily wiring new construction. I really hated working outside in the winter and I was desperate to have an indoor job. My best friend was a stone mason and he felt the same way. We were racing my old Allstate as partners ( his engine) and we didn't have a garage ! We rented this old building for cheap and started The Shop. We did anything we could to make money as we were both married with kids. Brakes , tune ups , engine overhaul, and body work in the same little building! Prior to opening this business, the rust was coming through on the RR and I paid a shop to weld in new metal in the quarter panels a few years before. That shop also jacked the left rear out with a porta power after the car was rear ended at a stop light. All he had done for the rust work was hammer in the rust and fill it with bondo! This first picture is what it looked like when I started working on it in 1981 grinding out the "mud". We built a folding , drop down wall for painting and hung lights on it. It was hinged and on pulleys from the ceiling . The rear light was just hung on a saw horse. The exhaust fan was a window unit from my grand mother's house. It actually worked pretty well! LOL
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Re: Mom's 68 road runner
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In 1985 or so, I pulled the 383 and overhauled it . Had it bored and gave it a purple shaft cam.
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Re: Mom's 68 road runner
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The good Ol Days when Mom would drive out to my shop to visit. Looks like your mom is expecting a blizzard, the way she is dressed! Great looking Road Runner...love the green.
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Thanks RoadRunner Luva I am sure that it was cold that day. Mom had lost all hearing in one ear and a large part of it in the other due to infections . She was very careful to preserve what was left. Whenever it was windy or cold she would cover up like that. Mark
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Re: Mom's 68 road runner
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Love the pics and the story about the car. I'd def save the windshield! Very cool!
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Re: Mom's 68 road runner
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A few progress pictures. I removed the pass. door , rebuilt the hinges, and went after the rust. Then filled, primed and blocked it a couple times , and rehung it after weighing the glass and other components and matching that weight .
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How's it going? Was thinking about this project today.
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Thanks for the update! Roof looks so nice, clean and shiny. Wish I could say the same, will probably end up changing the roof skin.
Did the left quarter, repaired everything behind it and am working on the right side now.
Will probably end up doing a build thread at some point.
Had a similar issue with uphill climbing a few year ago, as I had to move my '68 Charger out of the detached shop to get the GTX in, and move the Charger to the attached garage which the driveway has an uphill slope. So I had to climb a hill to get in (rather than to get out). The original 318 is still in it and runs fine, trans is good etc but the master cylinder froze up years ago so I wasn't too comfortable driving it in there. Nobody was around to help at the time and I ended up slowly pulling it in there with my tractor. Hope to get to that one after the GTX. Big plans for it...hopefully life will cooperate.
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Re: Mom's 68 road runner
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The trunk was good enough for me as it sat, I had blasted,patched it and shot DP90LF on it many years ago which preserved it, but the rear crossmember and frame tabs that connect to it were bad.
Once all the back spot welds (rear crossmember/trunk/tail panel area) were dealt with, and one quarter panel was cut off the only thing in the way of changing the trunk floor was 2 down bars/roll bar which (after the plates were cut off) I was able to flex upward with a ratchet strap just enough to sneak in a once piece trunk floor from the side.
So one thing led to another and I did put a trunk floor in it. I know I will be happier with the end result, and saved myself hours of repairing and straightening the rear spot weld area.
I didn't want to cut my trunk gutters b/c being a '69 the partial VIN is documented on the left one, so I just cleaned them up and repaired bad spots.
I'm using the new AMD larger inner wheelhouses to mini tub, there was enough rust at the bottom of the originals to make them worth changing. Spring relocation will have to wait, but at least by then more than half the job will already be done.
Yep you are right, I should probably start a thread.
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Yep you are right, I should probably start a thread. [/quote] And lots of pictures ! These projects can very easily snowball . DAMHIK Mark
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Ha Ha ! Imagine that ! Looking good Dave ! Thanks ! Mark
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Nice! Other than work to smooth the rear corner (where top of the quarter meets the side + the quarter extension), any other effort needed to make the quarter mate with the quarter extension? It looks like the '69 quarters are farther off in the tail light area than the '68s, as I had to add metal in a few places to make mine mate up with the extensions. And yes, I need to start a build thread to illustrate that I test fit my rear window trim and will need similar rework in that area to get it in the ballpark ( but I'm not touching it until the dutchman is replaced). Sure is nice to see all that work sealed up!
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Hey Rich, Sorry I am slow to reply. I have made a little progress on the car. The quarters and roof are in good shape after blocking the quarters several times. I removed the deck lid , and stripped it. It had some rust in the pinch weld at the lower rear of the lid and one other small place that I welded up. The lid was then epoxy primed and I have "ironed" the top of it before it was re-primed with urethane and began blocking it out. I think one more time will get it ,as it is looking pretty good now. The driver's door is next. It was hit in a parking lot incident when the car was a couple years old. I don't think it was bad though. I made a handle out of romex to help me carry the lid to and from the paint booth easily. Thanks for asking ! Hows the GTX coming along? Mark
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That's great! Nice to see things are moving along Things escalated a little bit on my end and now I'm working on a new roof skin. I'm trying not to rush + post-covid music gigs came back (guitar player -vocalist part time/auto parts electronic cataloging full time) I've done a vlog on my Facebook to keep track, of it all using an old device I keep in the shop.... Saving the videos to a memory card so I can always play them and take still screen shots of important stuff later for pics, if and when I get around to posting a build thread somewhere, either here or forbbodiesonnly, or both. .....for the time being I'm kind of using Facebook as a free storage/discussion with FB friends area.... . Keep up the great work sir
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What a story and history on that car. And to restore your mothers car with your own hands, and doing an outstanding job too, amazing. Love this project!! Thank you 69Cuda , I am glad that you are enjoying the story, and I appreciate your kind words. Mark
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[quote=ZIPPY]That's great! Nice to see things are moving along Things escalated a little bit on my end and now I'm working on a new roof skin. I'm trying not to rush + post-covid music gigs came back (guitar player -vocalist part time/auto parts electronic cataloging full time) I've done a vlog on my Facebook to keep track, of it all using an old device I keep in the shop.... Saving the videos to a memory card so I can always play them and take still screen shots of important stuff later for pics, if and when I get around to posting a build thread somewhere, either here or forbbodiesonnly, or both. .....for the time being I'm kind of using Facebook as a free storage/discussion with FB friends area.... Thanks Rich, I am not rushing it, just focusing on one piece at a time. It's still making some progress, just a little slow. I have also been working on the taillights , and other small parts. That's good that you are able to do gigs again. We all hope that doesn't change. I enjoy playing guitar, but I am not a performing artist like yourself. I entertain myself mostly ! I am on FB I would love to check out your progress. Can you send me a link to your FB page ? Thanks, Mark .
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Here are a few pictures to bring this up to date. I just got the front fenders back from being blasted. Apparently someone dropped the left front or hit it with something pretty hard as it came back dented in the front next to the headlight. The decal on the radiator support has the dealer service date still visible. I masked it off when I repainted the car in 1981 to save it. The area behind the hood hinges will need to be cut out and patched as well as the upper left front corner near the battery box. I think that is the worst of the remaining rust repair. the floor pans are solid .
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This was the only area that didn't align well. The rest looked good . Door gap , dutchman panel , etc. was good. This part was too tall from where the glass will bed and too wide . Also the lower area was not curved correctly in the radius for the moulding to fit, and that made the verticle moulding too long as well. I have it close now and will fine tune it from here. .
Mark My quarters are just like that. I admit thought I was pretty slick because I got the area where the glass lays on the side to fit nicely without cutting it (I held a piece of 3/16 steel in that glass channel and hit that with the hammer for quite a while to reshape that area, it worked better than expected), but when I test fit my molding recently I found out I'm going to have to cut the bottom part exactly like you did to get the shape correct. Your pics have definitely helped me out a bunch and I saved those + plenty of others in my FB album that you have probably noticed. Thanks again Mark and keep 'em coming.
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My quarters are just like that. I admit thought I was pretty slick because I got the area where the glass lays on the side to fit nicely without cutting it (I held a piece of 3/16 steel in that glass channel and hit that with the hammer for quite a while to reshape that area, it worked better than expected), but when I test fit my molding recently I found out I'm going to have to cut the bottom part exactly like you did to get the shape correct. Your pics have definitely helped me out a bunch and I saved those + plenty of others in my FB album that you have probably noticed. Thanks again Mark and keep 'em coming. [/quote] Hey Rich, Obviously that is spot that AMD has not corrected in these panels. We have to be happy that we caught it prior to painting etc. I guess. I am very glad to hear that my pictures were a help to you. You are moving along much faster than I am. Keep up the good work ! Mark
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sucks about the fender...of course they denied any part of it? Those floors look fantastic. Yes Dave , I was told that the dent was already there! Thanks for the compliment on the floorboards. I am glad to see I won't be doing any surgery on the floors . I have epoxy primed the fenders, then skim coated them and I am blocking them out / prime and repeat. I think they are about finished. I stripped the driver's door and did similar rust repair to what was needed on the passenger door except the pinchweld was in much better shape on this one. The door has been skim coated and primed and is in the block sanding process as well. I really hated to lose the hand painted RR birds from the doors . They were done by a friend that I haven't seen in many years.
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Thanks for sharing the progress and great history !! It sure means more to you, as it is part of the family !!! . . . looking at your pics, made me remember all the time I spent putting my Satellite back together, wondering if I would ever see the end and drive it. Well, that was 11 years and 15k miles ago now ! . . .
Sounds like you are enjoying your journey, and probably your siblings are as well !! . . . . great to have all those memories and stories !
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Thanks Guys for the kind words. I am really happy to hear that the pictures have been helpful for others here. I haven't made a lot of progress but I will share what I have . The rust behind the hinges as well as the front corners or the radiator support had rust coming through and so was my focus for repairs now. I think this is the last of the rust repairs, at least I hope so ! Mark
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Now would be a good time to replace that cracked dash pad. That is on the to do list for sure. I have had this pad stashed away for many years in a box on the shelf. I was happy to see there are still no cracks in it ! Looks like the date was August 2006 it was delivered ! Thanks guys, Mark
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