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Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede
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Forgive my ignorance- but exactly how do you tell. I think the intake on my Hemi has been altered the same way- if I'm looking at the right things-
I don't think they are that uncommon.... the cuts... the center divide radius and the welded in runners.
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Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede
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It is much harder to find a hemi intake that has NOT had this modification than ones that DO have it. If the manifold is date coded correct and has the modification there is no way to prove or disprove who or when it was done.
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Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede
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02/03/09 06:00 PM
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It is much harder to find a hemi intake that has NOT had this modification than ones that DO have it. If the manifold is date coded correct and has the modification there is no way to prove or disprove who or when it was done.
I have several NON-modified hemi intakes. I do not doubt that there are allot of modified intakes out there, but most were done with hack saw blades and die grinders(I have one of those too). The reality of someone doing the modification right... or exact without a/the spec. sheet or a real example is zero. If I explained to someone what it was supposed to look like its not likely they are going to go out in the garage and do it. And then again even if someone had the blueprint for the mod. would have the tools or ability to do it.
Aruzza is making new ones(machining the new MP intake) and selling them on E-bay but I didn't see the welded in runner... so there is an example of someone with the tools and they are still not doing it exact.
I was told that Vanke modified HEMI intakes into the early 70's and I also heard that DLI did the same mod.
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Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede
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It is much harder to find a hemi intake that has NOT had this modification than ones that DO have it. If the manifold is date coded correct and has the modification there is no way to prove or disprove who or when it was done.
I have several NON-modified hemi intakes. I do not doubt that there are allot of modified intakes out there, but most were done with hack saw blades and die grinders(I have one of those too). The reality of someone doing the modification right... or exact without a/the spec. sheet or a real example is zero. If I explained to someone what it was supposed to look like its not likely they are going to go out in the garage and do it. And then again even if someone had the blueprint for the mod. would have the tools or ability to do it.
Aruzza is making new ones(machining the new MP intake) and selling them on E-bay but I didn't see the welded in runner... so there is an example of someone with the tools and they are still not doing it exact.
I was told that Vanke modified HEMI intakes into the early 70's and I also heard that DLI did the same mod.
Any local machine shop can still do one today for about $50. It was in several hot rod magazines back in the day as a "how to" and I believe in some Mopar factory info as well. There are MANY of them around and done the same way Vanke did it from day one.
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Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede
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Looks like mine's just a hack job that someone pawned off as the real deal. Here's a pic that shows how both plenums are totally hogged out. I recently bought one from John Arruzza, to go w/ a larger cam (solid flat tappet) & 750 eddys, but am worried that I'll loose a lot of low end & mid range. A Stage 5 intake will make a lot more power & torque, but will loose the stock look. I'm also concerned about the correct height for my Shaker.
Sounds like you paid more for it because someone CLAIMED it was an original race piece , unless you have an original RO/WO car that you are restoring that would make little sense , but it's your money , I'm not here judging you .
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Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede
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Looks like mine's just a hack job that someone pawned off as the real deal. Here's a pic that shows how both plenums are totally hogged out. I recently bought one from John Arruzza, to go w/ a larger cam (solid flat tappet) & 750 eddys, but am worried that I'll loose a lot of low end & mid range. A Stage 5 intake will make a lot more power & torque, but will loose the stock look. I'm also concerned about the correct height for my Shaker.
Sounds like you paid more for it because someone CLAIMED it was an original race piece , unless you have an original RO/WO car that you are restoring that would make little sense , but it's your money , I'm not here judging you .
I was looking for performance parts for a hemi I was building that would keep the stock look & was told the Vanke intake would be the ticket. But being a novice & trusting a "friend's" advice, I bought it. Too bad I bought it when Mopar cars & parts (especially Hemi), were at their zenith.
I wanted to compare it to the repop I bought from Arruzza & see which one would perform the best.
Here's a pic of the numbers.
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Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede
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fastmark sent me his pics , I'll get them up later .
I also have a vanke modded intake at home , never noticed the internal added dams , I'll have to check it out .
opening the plenum does kill the bottom end torque , done to help on the launch and give more plenum volume for the top end , not a good idea I would think for a street car .
Trigger , you mentioned the stage 5 intake , there is available a shaker baseplate to use that intake , incase you didn't realize that .
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Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede
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fastmark sent me his pics , I'll get them up later .
I also have a vanke modded intake at home , never noticed the internal added dams , I'll have to check it out .
opening the plenum does kill the bottom end torque , done to help on the launch and give more plenum volume for the top end , not a good idea I would think for a street car .
Trigger , you mentioned the stage 5 intake , there is available a shaker baseplate to use that intake , incase you didn't realize that .
I know they make a Shaker baseplate, but the Stage 5 doesn't look stock. The Shaker pretty much hides the carbs & most of the intake, so it may be an option. I could modify my baseplate to fit the larger eddys, so that would save some $$.
I've got a Dana w/ 3.73's & a 4 spd & a decent lift solid lifter cam, so a little higher powerband might be ok. THe Chally's over 4K lbs w/ the hemi, so need all the torque the hemi will give. I noticed the welded in dams on the vanke photo & my Arruzza repop doesn't have that feature. Maybe I should weld it in? I only plan on spinning the motor to 6500, so do you think the Vanke mod is a good idea?
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Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede
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I know they make a Shaker baseplate, but the Stage 5 doesn't look stock. The Shaker pretty much hides the carbs & most of the intake, so it may be an option. I could modify my baseplate to fit the larger eddys, so that would save some $$.
I've got a Dana w/ 3.73's & a 4 spd & a decent lift solid lifter cam, so a little higher powerband might be ok. THe Chally's over 4K lbs w/ the hemi, so need all the torque the hemi will give. I noticed the welded in dams on the vanke photo & my Arruzza repop doesn't have that feature. Maybe I should weld it in? I only plan on spinning the motor to 6500, so do you think the Vanke mod is a good idea?
You have to open up the holes , spread them as the carbs are further apart , AND make the base a drop base because the intake is taller .
When the shaker is on no one can see the intake , plus it's worth 50HP .
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Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede
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02/06/09 01:24 AM
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Thanks for the photo. It shows the welded in dam clearly. Is its purpose to equalize the distance air has to flow, to compensate for the unequal length runners? Does it add low end torque? I'm about to go w/the Stage 5 intake & eddy 750's & sell the "vanke" repop that John made. Shoot, if I sell it w/ the original 69 hemi carbs, that'd pay for the cam swap & Stage 5 setup, too.
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