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Re: trans cooler line routing
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08/05/16 10:38 AM
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Just wanted to point out that the OE cooler lines are run like I planned out and in fact, are like that on many vehicles. I know because when I was a tech I used to fight with them all the time.
For hard lines I will use 3/8" aluminum.
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Re: trans cooler line routing
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08/05/16 11:58 AM
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I still have a gas tank, no cell. If I hadda do it again, I'd probably put it somewhere other than where it is now to avoid running the lines up front. Next time.
Went out to the car tonight and stared at it for a while. Running them up the frame rail just presents too many obstacles so I'm gonna run them over the K frame and along the oil pan. Gonna use the Twist Lok hose from the bulkheads to hard lines. The lines will run along the oil pan to the case. They will attach to the Twist Lok hose from the cooler taps. Might have to go get a few more fittings and maybe some brackets to keep stuff in place.
If I wanted to, I could actually just run the lines over the K frame and straight back under the trans pan without any interference and be totally away from the exhaust. But, I am going to bend the lines to make them tuck up as best as possible. Might see if I can get some line armor to protect against debris.
Only thing I am not sure of is if it would be better to go over or under the center link, not a lot of room between the bottom of the oil pan and the link.
Coolant lines above the center link, tight up against the left pan rail - OEM style.
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Re: trans cooler line routing
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08/05/16 03:51 PM
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My trans fittings are an absolute nightmare to get to as I am sure most of yours are. I am wondering if Jiffy Tight makes any of those quick disconnect fittings that will work to make trans removal easier. I actually set mine up where I can remove the lines from the cooler and pull them out with the trans(-6 braided) because the fittings are so hard to get to on the trans side.
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Re: trans cooler line routing
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08/06/16 10:33 AM
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Bad -
Just run hose out from the case to where they clear the headers and you can get a wrench on the hose/hard-line fittings, usually 6-8 inches. X2, was gonna say that. Not sure on the Quick Connect fittings but using AN type stuff is probably just a easy. How often are you disconnecting your cooler lines anyway? As for me, I re-considered the left frame rail idea again and am going to see if I can bend some line to make it work. I looked at things from a different perspective this time, I think it can be done and satisfy my need for a sanitary installation. In my application (small block with a Kevko oil pan and TTi headers) there is very little room between the oil pan and center link, didn't make much sense to run them there. The would also be just as close to the headers.
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Re: trans cooler line routing
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08/06/16 10:37 AM
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if running a quick connect, wouldn't it be advisable to step up one or two sizes at the disconnect due to the reduced id. of the disconnect fitting ?
Yes.
This is the best moment to plumb a good hydraulic cartridge filter in the line from the trans to the cooler.
Before the trans actually fails, the worn-off clutch and band friction material comes loose and circulates, which screws up your pick-up screen, pump, valve body, and converter.
Copper will work harden if you let it move. When it doesn't, it lasts for 20 years, like in your refrigerator.
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Re: trans cooler line routing
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08/08/16 11:37 PM
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Pretty much finished up the lines. I ended up routing them on the driver's side frame rail. I swear though, bending these lines was not easy, I fought with them for several hours to get them where I wanted. They look simple enough but that's after a few scrapped attempts. Ran out of fittings of course and naturally I need the expensive hose ends for the Twist Lok stuff. Alright, here's what I came up with.    This is along the frame rail behind the trans cross member. Those little tabs really made life easy.  Here's the line coming out of the rear cooler tap to the frame rail.   Up front connecting the hard line to the bulkhead.  I used some heat shield material that fits nice and snug where the lines come near the header tube right by the brake distribution block.  Came out OK, better than before. The short length of hose coming off the cooler taps provide connection points close to but away from the case for easy access/draining. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it! I am close to firing this thing up.
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Re: trans cooler line routing
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08/09/16 12:53 AM
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Thanks man. When I was bending the lines I kept thinking Nope! Nope! Nope! from your earlier post, was making me laugh.
Hope to have this thing done for ETown. You be back?
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Re: trans cooler line routing
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08/09/16 01:24 AM
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Well hope to see ya there. Saw Al on Friday, he's ready.
As for firing up the car - both the motor and trans were dynoed prior to install to avoid any surprises, all systems are go.
Would love to make it out to the Nats, will have to butter up my wife for next year. I should start working on that now...
Have you rode out there in the red van? That must be a trip.
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Re: trans cooler line routing
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Quite interesting with the fellas and the Red baron Van. If only they had the AC jazzed up.
Yes, I have ridden out in it quite a few times.  !!!
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Re: trans cooler line routing
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just to give you a different idea, my race car has a transmission cooler mounted on the floor board under the driver seat about one inch off the floor. Trans lines are only about 12 inches long. Saves weight, and it gets plenty of cool air. If it is a race only type vehicle a small cooler is plenty. Mine is about 6 by 12 inches. I looked into that option but was able to control myself and not spend money. The Derale 13740 looked cool. Plenty of spots under the driver's side floor for something like this. Would have been really easy to plumb and wire. Next time.
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Re: trans cooler line routing
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08/09/16 11:35 AM
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Looks nice... good job.... I ran along side of the oil pan.. the cooler is in front of the rad but mounted with a 1"+ space... I have a temp gauge on the trans and if I feel like I want more cooling I have another cooler with a fan on it... if I put that on also its going behind the cab but will be in air flow... so far all I have seen was 170* trans temp 
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