Enclosed Trailer Questions
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I have been looking around at enclosed trailers to haul my golf cart & Challenger in. Man, are they stupid expensive. But when compared to what we have into our cars it is worth to have it protected while towing. I have been looking at 26-28' tandem axle trailers in the 4500-6000 G's range. I found a 32' Tri axle that I really like but it a lot more money for 7G's+. Is the extra axle & length worth the extra costs in your opinions?
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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Re: Enclosed Trailer Questions
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Check the weight on that big triaxle. I wouldn't be surprised it if weighed 7500 empty. The extra room is nice, but you need a 1 ton dually at least to pull it. Make sure it has at least 16" tires, never use 15's on an enclosed.
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Re: Enclosed Trailer Questions
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07/26/16 05:04 PM
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I bought a 29' (24' with 5' nose) V-Nose Wells Cargo with a fold-down drivers side door for my race car and golf cart with 5K axles, it was right at $10K out the door. I could tow it with a 2500 with no issues. To get a trailer strong enough to haul everything you need will be expensive. The $10K was in 1996 so prices have probably risen accordingly. http://wellscargo.com/wellscargo-trailers/auto-trailers/autosport-v-front/overview/
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Re: Enclosed Trailer Questions
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07/26/16 05:45 PM
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FWIW...I'd go w/ atleast a 28'. I have a 24' and my cuda w/ golf cart barely fits. Challenger is longer, but not 2' longer, so the 26' will work, but you'll wish you'd gotten the 28'.
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Re: Enclosed Trailer Questions
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07/26/16 06:42 PM
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I have the same trailer as dvw and I tow with a 2006 dodge 1500 4x4.it tows well but no where near as good as if it was a 2500 or dually. I eaven tow it with my motor home and that pulls really well considering the weight I'm hauling.
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07/26/16 06:58 PM
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I am cheap and have a 24' trailer and get the Cuda in there with my four wheeler. Its tight, but it all fits. I have about 1ft more room with the Duster in there, but it all gets to the track the same. Been looking at newer trailers...Not cheap, but you get what you pay for.
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Re: Enclosed Trailer Questions
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Before you lay out your hard earned money research your state and the states you will be towing through. I too will be in the market soon if I can continue to race much longer. My trailer is a 7000 pound max and I sweat bullets every time I leave my driveway as I know I am over loaded with the trailer, car, quad, tools, and essentials needed to race. States at all ramping up on DOT rules as a way to make money and God forbid if you were ever evolved in a wreck because poop runs downhill. Bob George has an excellent post in the Moparts archives
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Re: Enclosed Trailer Questions
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07/26/16 09:08 PM
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A 28'will do for you but get the heaviest axles you can get.... 16' wheels mandatory.... if you go the longer trailer.. 16" MANDATORY ...if you go 3 axles you will wear tires..but if you blow a tire its not gonna kill ya.. I built a 43 trailer with 2 10K axles but the tires are the limiting factor and I but the heaviest rated you can buy... they last and I have blown out 1 tire and the other one will hold it up... I wouldnt want to run a lot of miles but it holds I didnt want 3 axles for 2 factors... wear and price if you are on pay roads(and I go on pay roads all the time to head to Norwalk)... but at 28' you probably wont have cabinets on the lower... thats about 3' for them EDIT I forgot that mine is a fifth wheel and I haul it with a Dodge CTD
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Re: Enclosed Trailer Questions
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Buy the best trailer you can, ONCE I've own three different enclosed car trailers, one used 24ft. Braceo(SP?)10,000 rated GVR, one new custom built 7000 lb rated 22 ft. Pace Shadow, the saleman lied to me about what it would weigh empty He said it would weigh around 2900 lbe empty, it weighed 4360 lbs empty My current one is a 24 ft. Pace Shadow 10,000 GVR rated, I wish I had a 36 to 40 ft goose neck with a living quaters for the races out of town Look at the roundy round racers web sites for a decent used one, some of then guys get sponsors and buy new trailer after that No matter what trailer you buy make sure it has at least six lug 16 inch wheels and tires My current Pace has 15 inch wheels and tires with 5200 lb rated six lug axles, I carry three spare tires now after blowing two of them out (E rated tires) on one trip
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Re: Enclosed Trailer Questions
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Hard to get heat transfer when the road temps reach 160 degrees. But its a dry heat right? :-)
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Re: Enclosed Trailer Questions
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How many miles a year will you be towing? If you are going to be traveling a lot with the trailer, than a three axle and 32' may be a good choice because of the extra space and spreading the load on six tires vs. four, but If you only drive a thousand miles or so per year, the tire may dry rot before the thread is warn down.
I have a 28' two axle that works good for me. When I originally bought it, it had the six lug 15" rims, and when packed with a #4,200 pound car, and tool chest, and extra junk, the "D" load rated tires were taking a beating. Last rear I replaced the rims/tires with 16" rims and "E" load rated tires. Anyhow, if you find a deal on a trailer and it has 15" rims, it is not that difficult to replace them with 16" rims and tires.
I looked for quite awhile before buying my trailer, and found a good deal where the guy was upgrading to a 40' trailer.
Using a 1-ton 2005 Ram Diesel to tow it with.
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Re: Enclosed Trailer Questions
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I shopped used for almost a year a Finally when a killer deal popped up on Craigslist it was in my zip code--yahoo! I was at their place 22 minutes after the Craigs ad came up--had a hard time lowering the price as the phone was ringing whole time I was there--Lucky I had cash from an engine sale in my pocket and had not been to the bank yet soooo...I scored! It is often just about being the early bird--shop used--plan on new tires no matter what they look like and you can get a trailer with more features than you could stand at retail--shoot for the heavier axles and 16 inch if you can FWIW I like the torsion bar type vs springs--stuff inside rides better I think. Get as big as your truck can pull comfortably. Good Luck!
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Re: Enclosed Trailer Questions
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07/28/16 11:49 PM
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Not as cheap as me !! Just built this, it's small, it's low and it will have to do.
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Re: Enclosed Trailer Questions
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Well, I made him an offer on the 32'er. We'll see if he takes it or not. If not, I already have a 28'er lined up from a buddy that is much cheaper but I will have to do more to it to fix it up the way I would want it.
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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