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Re: Trick Flow heads
[Re: DLewis]
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07/19/16 09:17 PM
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I've got my engine at a local builder and things just aren't going how I'd hoped. One of the hurdles is the rockers. He's trying to use these Chinese stainless rockers. also, are these the $180 rockers all over ebay or the PRW rockers?
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Re: Trick Flow heads
[Re: cudadoug]
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07/19/16 09:28 PM
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There are several postes from AndyF regarding rockers in this thread. I thought Harland Sharpes got his 100% blessing for proper geometry. I don't know what your specific issue is, but RUN FAR AWAY from those rockers!
Rockers are no place to pinch pennies. Don't take a chance killing your expensive new bullet! I've been with this thread from the beginning and I'm on page 9 reading it again front to back. It seems there's been different concerns from different vendors and the ones he really likes aren't produced anymore but I'll refresh myself! And I agree on the penny pinching. The builder is insisting these things are awesome because they're stainless and he hates aluminum rockers. And YES these are the same ones I've seen for $165 on eBay.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
[Re: cudadoug]
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07/19/16 09:47 PM
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There are several postes from AndyF regarding rockers in this thread. I thought Harland Sharpes got his 100% blessing for proper geometry. I don't know what your specific issue is, but RUN FAR AWAY from those rockers!
Rockers are no place to pinch pennies. Don't take a chance killing your expensive new bullet! Anyone who saw our geometry display at Carlisle, knows Harland Sharps don't have anywhere near good geometry. Any roller rocker, for that matter, without some adjustment.
Mike Beachel
I didn't write the rules of math nor create the laws of physics, I am just bound by them.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
[Re: DLewis]
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07/19/16 10:23 PM
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NOT those.............why some skimp in one of the most important parts of a build is beyond me...........
Last edited by Thumperdart; 07/19/16 10:23 PM.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
[Re: Thumperdart]
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07/20/16 12:23 PM
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I'm using the Hughes 1.6 ratio rockers on mine. Had the Mancini "Harland" body ones on there for test sweep. I didn't care for the sweep pattern borderline outside IMO. The Hughes rockers are better. I also highly recommend the Hughes shaft hold-downs. Plus, make sure to get the longer studs- as mentioned here before. TF has them on their website.
My engine is a 400 zero decked with a .050 Cometic gasket; stroked to 470.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
[Re: Cudajon]
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07/20/16 08:48 PM
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the S70015KE rocker kit is the one that I bought for my 512 project, but have not had a chance to check things over since I just got everything back from the machine shop Monday and don't plan on doing anything with it untill after the Mopar Nat's, they will be used with a .690 lift solid roller cam.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
[Re: B3RE]
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07/21/16 02:00 AM
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There are several postes from AndyF regarding rockers in this thread. I thought Harland Sharpes got his 100% blessing for proper geometry. I don't know what your specific issue is, but RUN FAR AWAY from those rockers!
Rockers are no place to pinch pennies. Don't take a chance killing your expensive new bullet! Anyone who saw our geometry display at Carlisle, knows Harland Sharps don't have anywhere near good geometry. Any roller rocker, for that matter, without some adjustment. Guess I`m fortunate so far cos after lash caps, the scrub was decent and went from slightly outboard then inward on rpm heads and HS 1.5`s which measured 1.54 at the retainer. These are roughly 10 years old and I checked the guides and everything was good after a good amount of street driving and some passes........
72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
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Re: Trick Flow heads
[Re: Thumperdart]
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07/21/16 09:16 AM
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There are several postes from AndyF regarding rockers in this thread. I thought Harland Sharpes got his 100% blessing for proper geometry. I don't know what your specific issue is, but RUN FAR AWAY from those rockers!
Rockers are no place to pinch pennies. Don't take a chance killing your expensive new bullet! Anyone who saw our geometry display at Carlisle, knows Harland Sharps don't have anywhere near good geometry. Any roller rocker, for that matter, without some adjustment. Guess I`m fortunate so far cos after lash caps, the scrub was decent and went from slightly outboard then inward on rpm heads and HS 1.5`s which measured 1.54 at the retainer. These are roughly 10 years old and I checked the guides and everything was good after a good amount of street driving and some passes........ Ok, time for another analogy. I bought a new Holley carb, and bolted it on right out of the box. The throttle bores lined up perfectly with the manifold plenum, and it fired right up. I've been fortunate, because I've been driving it for years now, and I've never fouled any plugs, so my carb must be spot on. Dom, as a carb guy, does that make any sense to you? Just like there is more to a carb tune than not fouling plugs, there is a whole lot more than a centered sweep pattern and guide wear to proper valvetrain geometry. Not trying to bust your chops, just trying to apply some simple logic from the perspective of what you do with carbs. 
Mike Beachel
I didn't write the rules of math nor create the laws of physics, I am just bound by them.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
[Re: B3RE]
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07/21/16 11:18 AM
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Never said it was perfect just said I got lucky or I`m smart enuff to make em as good as I could for the time like some people w/carbs. I totally understand what you`re doing w/the geometry cos we did it years ago at Pettis except the heads were modified by cutting down the rocker stands and moved em to a more desirable position but LOTS or work. Believe me I get it cos some people don't do what I do w/carbs to optimize their performance as you are doing w/your stuff.........
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72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
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Re: Trick Flow heads
[Re: DblOJoe]
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07/21/16 12:20 PM
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I've been running the S70015KE rockers with the trick flows since April with no problems. Cars been to the track nearly every weekend. Can you share with us the combo and performance? What heads previously? Dyno numbers only mean so much, I prefer timeslips.
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68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
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Re: Trick Flow heads
[Re: fast68plymouth]
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07/21/16 12:33 PM
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Off topic, but ...... TT......looks like that Dart is working well!! Thanks!! Very happy with the new Hemi, has about 80 runs on it now and hasn't missed a beat.
-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
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