Trick Flow heads - Moparts Forums

Register Log In Moparts Forums Unlawfl's Race & Engine Tech Trick Flow heads

Print Thread

Page 32 of 45

1

2

…

30

31

32

33

34

…

44

45

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #2113633 07/19/16 10:16 PM 07/19/16 10:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,094 central texas K krautrock top fuel
krautrock top fuel K Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,094 central texas	i think AndyF said the mancini rockers work well, same for the harland sharpe, the short ones spec'd for the edelbrock heads. the hughes rockers work too. i bet the crane chromoly rockers would work as well...

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: DLewis] #2113637 07/19/16 10:17 PM 07/19/16 10:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,094 central texas K krautrock top fuel
krautrock top fuel K Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,094 central texas	Originally Posted By DLewis I've got my engine at a local builder and things just aren't going how I'd hoped. One of the hurdles is the rockers. He's trying to use these Chinese stainless rockers. also, are these the $180 rockers all over ebay or the PRW rockers?

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: DLewis] #2113638 07/19/16 10:17 PM 07/19/16 10:17 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place C cudadoug master
cudadoug master C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place	There are several postes from AndyF regarding rockers in this thread. I thought Harland Sharpes got his 100% blessing for proper geometry. I don't know what your specific issue is, but RUN FAR AWAY from those rockers! Rockers are no place to pinch pennies. Don't take a chance killing your expensive new bullet!

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: cudadoug] #2113641 07/19/16 10:28 PM 07/19/16 10:28 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 103 Minnesota D DLewis member
DLewis member D Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 103 Minnesota	Originally Posted By cudadoug There are several postes from AndyF regarding rockers in this thread. I thought Harland Sharpes got his 100% blessing for proper geometry. I don't know what your specific issue is, but RUN FAR AWAY from those rockers! Rockers are no place to pinch pennies. Don't take a chance killing your expensive new bullet! I've been with this thread from the beginning and I'm on page 9 reading it again front to back. It seems there's been different concerns from different vendors and the ones he really likes aren't produced anymore but I'll refresh myself! And I agree on the penny pinching. The builder is insisting these things are awesome because they're stainless and he hates aluminum rockers. And YES these are the same ones I've seen for $165 on eBay.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: DLewis] #2113651 07/19/16 10:39 PM 07/19/16 10:39 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 561 USA B B3RE mopar
B3RE mopar B Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 561 USA	Originally Posted By DLewis I've got my engine at a local builder and things just aren't going how I'd hoped. One of the hurdles is the rockers. He's trying to use these Chinese stainless rockers. Some look like they've been welded and ground. The caps on the rocker shaft are different width than the posts on the heads so the shims are only contacting on the head. ..Is this normal? Okay? If you had to get some rockers today what is a safe bet? I've been following this thread since it's inception and it seems like there still isn't a really good option but Crane golds will work? Any input will be appreciated. The engine is a 512 stroker flat tappet cam. What brand are the Chinese rockers? They look like eBay specials to me. Some of the import rockers will be fine for your application, but if you snagged the cheapest ones you could find to put on a $2000 set of heads, that probably wasn't such a great idea. There are a lot of rejects on the market that go out the back door of the manufacturing plant, because the purchaser refused them, and the company tried to recoup some of the loss. Its much safer to pay a little more and buy directly from an authorized dealer. Mike Beachel I didn't write the rules of math nor create the laws of physics, I am just bound by them.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: cudadoug] #2113657 07/19/16 10:47 PM 07/19/16 10:47 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 561 USA B B3RE mopar
B3RE mopar B Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 561 USA	Originally Posted By cudadoug There are several postes from AndyF regarding rockers in this thread. I thought Harland Sharpes got his 100% blessing for proper geometry. I don't know what your specific issue is, but RUN FAR AWAY from those rockers! Rockers are no place to pinch pennies. Don't take a chance killing your expensive new bullet! Anyone who saw our geometry display at Carlisle, knows Harland Sharps don't have anywhere near good geometry. Any roller rocker, for that matter, without some adjustment. Mike Beachel I didn't write the rules of math nor create the laws of physics, I am just bound by them.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: DLewis] #2113688 07/19/16 11:23 PM 07/19/16 11:23 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	NOT those.............why some skimp in one of the most important parts of a build is beyond me........... Last edited by Thumperdart; 07/19/16 11:23 PM. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: Thumperdart] #2114018 07/20/16 01:23 PM 07/20/16 01:23 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,033 Madison, Wisconsin chrisnben super stock
chrisnben super stock Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,033 Madison, Wisconsin	I'm using the Hughes 1.6 ratio rockers on mine. Had the Mancini "Harland" body ones on there for test sweep. I didn't care for the sweep pattern borderline outside IMO. The Hughes rockers are better. I also highly recommend the Hughes shaft hold-downs. Plus, make sure to get the longer studs- as mentioned here before. TF has them on their website. My engine is a 400 zero decked with a .050 Cometic gasket; stroked to 470. '70 Cuda "Badfish 2"- in the works Home of MoPar University- We school 'em one at a time!!

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #2114327 07/20/16 08:47 PM 07/20/16 08:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,436 Oklahoma City OK Cudajon pro stock
Cudajon pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,436 Oklahoma City OK	The trick flow top end kit uses the HS Part Number: CSP-S70015KE 1.5 rocker with a .600 lift hydraulic roller cam. Is that working for anybody? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J3K94cRC1c

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #2114358 07/20/16 09:34 PM 07/20/16 09:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,061 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,061 Oregon	Can't think of any reason it wouldn't work just fine since that is what Trick Flow picked to use on their heads. I have the 1.70 E kit and it looks just fine to me. Better than a couple of other brands I've tried on these heads.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: chrisnben] #2114361 07/20/16 09:36 PM 07/20/16 09:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,061 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,061 Oregon	The MRE rocker arms are a little longer than the E rocker arms but a little shorter than the standard Harland rockers. The MRE rocker arms are designed to be a replacement for the Crane rocker arms which are no longer available.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: Cudajon] #2114370 07/20/16 09:48 PM 07/20/16 09:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	the S70015KE rocker kit is the one that I bought for my 512 project, but have not had a chance to check things over since I just got everything back from the machine shop Monday and don't plan on doing anything with it untill after the Mopar Nat's, they will be used with a .690 lift solid roller cam. Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: Cudajon] #2114373 07/20/16 09:56 PM 07/20/16 09:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 559 Idaho L LaRoy Engines mopar
LaRoy Engines mopar L Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 559 Idaho	Originally Posted By Cudajon The trick flow top end kit uses the HS Part Number: CSP-S70015KE 1.5 rocker with a .600 lift hydraulic roller cam. Is that working for anybody? The 1.6 rockers are working on this 440. 440 with Trick Flow heads running 1.6 Harland Sharp E rockers.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #2114538 07/21/16 02:47 AM 07/21/16 02:47 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 528 N.W. Indiana DblOJoe mopar
DblOJoe mopar Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 528 N.W. Indiana	I've been running the S70015KE rockers with the trick flows since April with no problems. Cars been to the track nearly every weekend.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: B3RE] #2114546 07/21/16 03:00 AM 07/21/16 03:00 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Originally Posted By B3RE Originally Posted By cudadoug There are several postes from AndyF regarding rockers in this thread. I thought Harland Sharpes got his 100% blessing for proper geometry. I don't know what your specific issue is, but RUN FAR AWAY from those rockers! Rockers are no place to pinch pennies. Don't take a chance killing your expensive new bullet! Anyone who saw our geometry display at Carlisle, knows Harland Sharps don't have anywhere near good geometry. Any roller rocker, for that matter, without some adjustment. Guess I`m fortunate so far cos after lash caps, the scrub was decent and went from slightly outboard then inward on rpm heads and HS 1.5`s which measured 1.54 at the retainer. These are roughly 10 years old and I checked the guides and everything was good after a good amount of street driving and some passes........ 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: Thumperdart] #2114605 07/21/16 10:16 AM 07/21/16 10:16 AM
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 561 USA B B3RE mopar
B3RE mopar B Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 561 USA	Originally Posted By Thumperdart Originally Posted By B3RE Originally Posted By cudadoug There are several postes from AndyF regarding rockers in this thread. I thought Harland Sharpes got his 100% blessing for proper geometry. I don't know what your specific issue is, but RUN FAR AWAY from those rockers! Rockers are no place to pinch pennies. Don't take a chance killing your expensive new bullet! Anyone who saw our geometry display at Carlisle, knows Harland Sharps don't have anywhere near good geometry. Any roller rocker, for that matter, without some adjustment. Guess I`m fortunate so far cos after lash caps, the scrub was decent and went from slightly outboard then inward on rpm heads and HS 1.5`s which measured 1.54 at the retainer. These are roughly 10 years old and I checked the guides and everything was good after a good amount of street driving and some passes........ Ok, time for another analogy. I bought a new Holley carb, and bolted it on right out of the box. The throttle bores lined up perfectly with the manifold plenum, and it fired right up. I've been fortunate, because I've been driving it for years now, and I've never fouled any plugs, so my carb must be spot on. Dom, as a carb guy, does that make any sense to you? Just like there is more to a carb tune than not fouling plugs, there is a whole lot more than a centered sweep pattern and guide wear to proper valvetrain geometry. Not trying to bust your chops, just trying to apply some simple logic from the perspective of what you do with carbs. Mike Beachel I didn't write the rules of math nor create the laws of physics, I am just bound by them.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: B3RE] #2114701 07/21/16 12:18 PM 07/21/16 12:18 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Never said it was perfect just said I got lucky or I`m smart enuff to make em as good as I could for the time like some people w/carbs. I totally understand what you`re doing w/the geometry cos we did it years ago at Pettis except the heads were modified by cutting down the rocker stands and moved em to a more desirable position but LOTS or work. Believe me I get it cos some people don't do what I do w/carbs to optimize their performance as you are doing w/your stuff......... Last edited by Thumperdart; 07/21/16 12:18 PM. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: DblOJoe] #2114756 07/21/16 01:20 PM 07/21/16 01:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington T Triple Threat master
Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	Originally Posted By Dbl"00"Joe I've been running the S70015KE rockers with the trick flows since April with no problems. Cars been to the track nearly every weekend. Can you share with us the combo and performance? What heads previously? Dyno numbers only mean so much, I prefer timeslips. Last edited by Triple Threat; 07/21/16 01:21 PM. -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #2114760 07/21/16 01:23 PM 07/21/16 01:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,513 So. Burlington, Vt. F fast68plymouth OP I Live Here
fast68plymouth OP I Live Here F Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,513 So. Burlington, Vt.	Off topic, but ...... TT......looks like that Dart is working well!! 68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #2114773 07/21/16 01:33 PM 07/21/16 01:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington T Triple Threat master
Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	Originally Posted By fast68plymouth Off topic, but ...... TT......looks like that Dart is working well!! Thanks!! Very happy with the new Hemi, has about 80 runs on it now and hasn't missed a beat. -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Page 32 of 45

1

2

…

30

31

32

33

34

…

44

45

Moderated by Al_Alguire, Hotwheelsjr, moparts, not_a_charger, RangerDan440, tboomer

Hop To

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1