Re: Help me with 383 upgrade!
[Re: ireland383]
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02/01/09 03:13 PM
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What is the intended usage for this motor?
It's Swifty! Swifty, you toad sucker!
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Re: Help me with 383 upgrade!
[Re: ireland383]
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02/01/09 03:31 PM
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ademon
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Most important in my opinion is a C/R up around 10.1 to 10.5 for a street 383, look for some close chamber heads 915's, stealth, even a set of 516, with bowl work and bigger valves would be better than open chamber heads, also don't over do the cam, 220 to 230 at.050 for good all around low to mid range. 230 to 240 for hot street. On my worn out stock 68 383 hp motor with factory flat top, i replaced the 906 with 915's, and replaced the cam with a vodoo 220/226 475/494 112cl and was very very pleased with the power and performance, its about 9.8 cr with .040 fel pros with a quench of around .040 to .050.
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Re: Help me with 383 upgrade!
[Re: ireland383]
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02/01/09 03:44 PM
02/01/09 03:44 PM
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here's my build...
383, 440 stroker kit, 438 cu. in.
eddy RPM heads--84cc chambers, OOTB zero deck flat top pistons with valve reliefs 10.5:1 compression comp XE275HL cam RPM intake 1 7/8 headers holley 750HP
made 505 hp on the dyno, tons of bottom end. over 500 ft lbs torque from 3000 rpm through 5800 rpm
with stock 906 heads reconditioned to like new, all else being the same, it was about 9.5 compression, and maybe only about 450 hp, due to the lower compression AND lower airflow of the heads
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Re: Help me with 383 upgrade!
[Re: ireland383]
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02/01/09 03:47 PM
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I'm assuming you're not looking for a full bottom end rebuild (??). 450 ponies from an 8.5:1 383 is a tall order. But here's some tips on getting the most out of it: I'd first focus on getting the compression up. -Make sure you're running .020 head gaskets. -Closed chamber heads are a must on a 383; Eddy RPM's or Source Stealths. 516 castings with oversize valves and an MP-template port job will work, but once you spend the money to have that work done, you're most likely within a McDonalds lunch of a set of stealths. -Short stroke, low compression motor, so too much cam duration will kill your bottom end, Something in the range of a Comp XE275HL grind would be my choice. -A 383 will be a high RPM motor, so bigger carb than you might think. I have a 750 on mine, and it works well. - 1-3/4" headers are fine for a 383. - Gears, Gears, Gears.... 3.91's for a street ride. - I like the RPM manifold for a street car, but a single plane will work well, and maybe make a little more top end.
Tuned right, that outline should get you around 400 ponies, and will allow you to hold your own on the street.
Last edited by GEnsrud; 02/01/09 04:07 PM.
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Re: Help me with 383 upgrade!
[Re: StealthWedge67]
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02/01/09 05:27 PM
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with alot allready said. Compression is the key. Use 915 or reworked 516 heads at a minimum or look into aftermarket. Stroker would help, but it will still have the same problems if the heads aren't changed or looked into. The problem seems to be piston choices are really slim. DO NOT believe the charts from the piston makers because more often than not their piston will sit too low. I am pushing right at 400 with 2.14/1.74 ported 516 heads, Comps nostalgia .474 cam, Holley SD and a 650 mighty demon. Not a stroker here. All in all I am happy with the mill. Its got great low end and has great idle, and drive quality. There is probably more in the motor That I may try to find later, but for now it is just fine for cruisin around town.
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Re: Help me with 383 upgrade!
[Re: farmington]
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02/14/09 09:45 PM
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https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post4933738Use eigher a KB162 piston or a 2316 Federal mogul/TRW to keep your compression height correct. Anything less than these are a waist of money and super-low compression. Even with these pistons and an 85CC or so head, your barely at 9:1. Follow the link on a Purestock 383 thread.
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Re: Help me with 383 upgrade!
[Re: farmington]
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02/14/09 09:52 PM
02/14/09 09:52 PM
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1_WILD_RT
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Quote:
I found a new set of the 12.5 TRW's .030 for my new 383. coupled with Muscle Motors stage 1 iron heads, I'm right at 10.5:1. A comp xe285-hl, rpm intake 1 3/4 headers and 4.10's. Should make my duster scoot.
Just my point, a piston thats rated at 12.5-1 in actuality measures 10.5... Farmington did getting the 10.5 require cutting down the domes or is that just a result of the larger then spec combustion chambers & likely taller then spec deck height??
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