I just priced a firm feel 16:1 manual box outright no core and it was $750 plus shipping . You can get a good box from Lares for a lot less through Rockauto.

Lares is a simply rebuild what you have setup, no core charge. So take $200 of the comparison price for the core because it is not comparable. If you don't have a core for Lares to rebuild, you will not get a rebuild from Lares.

I don't know what you spec'd but a simple FF rebuild of my 65 Cuda's manual box is about $25 more than Lares. Shipping not figured.

If you want a faster ratio worm gear that's an extra $225 from FF and not an option from Lares, so again not comparable.

Lares build to OE Specification, FF builds tighter than that, again no comparison.

So, you picked a worst case scenario for FF, no core, worm gear upgrade, and compared it to a rebuild your core option. Seems like a fair comparison to me, not.

I get boxes from Lares without ever sending in a core yes they do have a core charge,it's just not worth it from Canada. They also have 16:1 manual boxes and it's a few hundred less in the end.

Like I said a 16:1 FF manual is now $750 plus shipping outright no core.

What's the cost, no core, for a 16:1 manual box from Lares?

Cause that is not what's on RA.

It was way less than than FF , but I would have to do the conversion as Rock Auto's site prices in Canadian dollars.
You can also get the box at Bouchillion (sp?) Performance for around $460 no core, which was about $300 less than the FF quote.

Andy has power steering.

No need to drag manual boxes into this discussion.




FF Stage 3 box is $379. Core charge is $200.

I think the Lares power boxes are in the $ 250 range and the core charge was low, $50-$75. I haven't bought one since last summer.

actually today, advanced auto has a sale, 20 percent off. I pay taxes but save shipping both ways since I can drop it off at my local store, if I wanted to go with Lares.

it would be 145 plus 80 dollar core less 20 percent.
about 120 bucks for a lares power box through them.

but not sure which way to go on that.

Pretty sure you are gonna get a stock rebuild box back. No feel improvement, but it shouldn't have as much slop, if done right.

I guess I am still confused on "feel" .

I ordered the lares anyway since it was a today sale only.
worst case I hump it all back to the local store and return it.

Still want to research if firm feel is worth my time.

Just do a search. Everyone loves it no matter the application. People also likes Steer & Gear. You can always call Dick @ FF to see what he does instead of asking a bunch of people on the internet.

For that price you can't go wrong,( I WISH I could buy them for that) I have used Lares boxes and they work good. If you want more feel you can drop the pump pressure, the information is on line under Mopar Action's web site.

Just to give you an idea what we are up against in Canada I priced a Firm Feel 16:1 manual box, it's $ 754 plus around $150 shipping to Canada, with the exchange rate, taxes and duty it would be $1300 Canadian by the time It gets to my door.

My understanding is that the vendors OTHER than Firm Feel and Steer & Gear only clean the units then reassemble them with new gaskets. No hard parts are replaced.
Firm Feel installs stiffer springs and uses parts with closer tolerances. Think of it like rebuilding an engine: What do you prefer? An engine with every part measured for a proper fit OR a quickie job where everything is just put together with no regard to proper fit?

Well Lares is not rebuilding original manual 16:1 boxes so I have to ASSume that the worm gear is new as well, add new gaskets seals and thats a full rebuild. If you look at Rock Auto they seem to offer a new 16:1 box for $289 or a reman for $425 not sure why...might order one and see what shows up. It's a big difference from the $ 754 FF price either way.

The Lares power boxes I would guess that the worm gear is a used one as the price of those boxes is really low so they may be reusing the worn....but the ones I bought work great, they are as good on centre as the Firm Fell boxes I have used.

wow, I only looked at 65 Cuda applications, which Laares shows reman only, looked up 68 Dart and viola I see what you are saying. I might be getting a new 16:1 manual box for my Cuda.

I guess some here are slow to get the point.
The OP was asking about POWER STEERING.

Sorry, I have biceps.

If it fits a 68 Dart it should fit a 65 Cuda I would guess...but I only have 67-72 A bodies so I'm not 100%. If it works and is all new you can't really go wrong.

Any chance to whip out them guns!

Not to mention keeping "her" from driving my car.

1 wife, 3 daughters, lot's of hers out there that seem to think a car is a pinball and they are the wizard.