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Long ram intakes #2097292
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What year and applications were they avail.?

What length are they and how are tbey measured?

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Other long ram gurus will chime in, I believe the years were 60-64, on B's and RB's. They were originally measured as 30", but from where to where, I don't know. a shorter similar looking version was offered and rather rare, that was said to be 15", but still outwardly almost the same, they removed half (15"?) of the divider in each pair of runners. That raised the tuning from 2800 rpm to ??. They really should never be considered a performance upgrade today with current technology, except maybe for RB 383 cross country trailer pulling Station wagon, no matter how neat they look. And I own a set, and also had them on my 62 dart in HS. eyes


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60/61/63/64,some say 62 but could never verify.Also,they wont fit in a b-body unless you cut the shock tower.As for length shruggy !!

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A local guy has a set that he was trying to sell me. He said they were off a 63 413 I believe. I never measured them. He wanted a grand for them but I don`t think they were really worth half that.


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Re: Long ram intends [Re: jcc] #2097373
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There are two versions of the long ram. On the long version the tube divider valley extends all the way to the plenum.

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All the 1959 Chrysler 300 came with them. I've heard that Mopar made some 1960 and 1961 Dodge and Plymouth police pursuit cars with low deck motors with them also, I've never seen one of those confused
I belive that there are three different version of those intake, the divider length being the the differences between them. The 15 inch moddle mention was in Hot Rod and Car Craft magazines in the early 1962/63 years and is in fact the factory Max Wedge short one piece crossrams, not a long ram version shruggy

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Cab, not 59's, 60 300F's were the first to get them

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My 60 Dart had them.The exhaust tubes used to be worth a bundle.Not sure if they still are.The pieces that go on the valley pan are usually not with them.Cant say how many sets ive seen and all it was was the tubes.The small pieces that go between them on the heads/pan are usually missing as are the exgaust tubes.Rocky


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and those center pieces were just cut on a band saw between the center mounting holes, so every intake is different at that cut line. a few years ago, someone was reproducing those, but were extra length so you could fit to your intakes. the balance tubes can be made from exhaust tubing i believe, but must be slightly crushed to fit between the intake pieces.
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Yeah forgot about the balance tubes.The crush was odd.Mine still had the original rubbers and clamps as they were all together.I think someone was repopping the exhaust tube and maybe the manifolds also.Same with the vacuum pod and the cross linkage for the carbs.Rocky


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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
Cab, not 59's, 60 300F's were the first to get them
Me thinks not, I could have bought a 1959 300E convertable with the factory crossram motor in it in 1964. It was in a auto repair shop in 29 Palms, CA and the owner( A Marine) had some work done by the shop and left it for what was owed on the bill. The bill was around $500.00 which was more than I wanted to pay for a big old tank convertable realcrazy A freind of my wifes husband ended up with it years later as she had inherited the garage and all the contents of the garage and storage yard attached. shruggy


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My 60 Dodge had aluminum runners and the air cleaners were red.Car ran good but was a pain as it fouled plugs a lot and what a treat to change them.Luckily I had the lift at the Sunoco station.Wish I still had it as it was rare being a vert on top of a D500.Rocky


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Was that a 383 or 361 motor?


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It would be neat (not necessarily practical) to put one of the 30" versions on a 440 built for towing in a truck, probably be a good fit

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Mine was a 383.Worst part was tranny.Kept trashing them even after one of the best here rebuilt it.Stuck a standard behind it and blew like 4 trannys.Went back to auto.Sadly the rust free body with car running went to scrap for 35 bucks.Rocky


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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
Cab, not 59's, 60 300F's were the first to get them
Me thinks not, I could have bought a 1959 300E convertable with the factory crossram motor in it in 1964. It was in a auto repair shop in 29 Palms, CA and the owner( A Marine) had some work done by the shop and left it for what was owed on the bill. The bill was around $500.00 which was more than I wanted to pay for a big old tank convertable realcrazy A freind of my wifes husband ended up with it years later as she had inherited the garage and all the contents of the garage and storage yard attached. shruggy


Cab,I have owned three long ram cars from that era a 60 and two 61's including this one after Bud Faubel sold it and I believe 99 % of what you post but I would have to see that with my own eyes ! no

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They were not factory in 1959. Every 300-E had in-line dual fours. It's very possible that the parts were swapped when they became available.

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Here's a stock 1960 300F engine. These were the first production line Long Ram engines. As a rare option you could order Short Rams on these in 1960, I've only seen one and it happened to be a factory 4 speed convertible. I have not seen the documentation but it is said to be legit. The Ram intakes used two designs to heat the carburetors, one version used hot water, and the other used hot air.

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