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Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: WHITEDART] #2073604
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Power adder deal then...Apples to oranges from a guy who has done both. Just sayin...

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Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: WHITEDART] #2073702
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Smallblock nitrous car Al. Fastest leaf car in the country in the 1/8. He doesn't run it 1/4 mile

Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: WHITEDART] #2073704
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Bad to the bone.


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Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: WHITEDART] #2073735
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Dale Arborgast I believe ran a 4.42 is his supercharged Big Block Nova at the leaf spring shoot out on leafs and Caltracs. It's a beast

Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: WHITEDART] #2073740
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He has been 4.45@155, here are his 1/4 mile passes he does once a year.
http://youtu.be/2Xp-CWvqI1c

What I like about Ron Rhoades besides he is a small block nitrous car. Is that he goes down the track almost every pass, it's rare for him to spin. He has a handle on his leaf spring set up like nobody I know.

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Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: 590 Challenger] #2073749
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Originally Posted By 590 Challenger
Dale Arborgast I believe ran a 4.42 is his supercharged Big Block Nova at the leaf spring shoot out on leafs and Caltracs. It's a beast


4.46 is the fastest I believe he has run in his nova.


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Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: 1967dartgt] #2073753
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Dale ran 4.42 @ 169 in March in the finals.

I'm going to try to make my leafs work this year, time will tell

Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: Al_Alguire] #2073756
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Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
Well also take note of the wheelie bars........


Or lack thereof...


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Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: Plumb Wired] #2073771
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Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: WHITEDART] #2073840
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Originally Posted By WHITEDART
Originally Posted By 1967dartgt
wow the fastest leaf spring car in the country and it has lowering blocks lol I guess he has the wrong leaf springs ...
His car also weighs about 2500lbs. He can't get a light enough spring for it to sit right, so he has no choice......YOU DO, your car weighs 3000lb............but you do whatever you want.

It was also noted Ronnie, his sons car, has no blocks............why? His car weighs 2900lbs, no need for them

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Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: Monte_Smith] #2073843
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So much for THAT theory................. laugh2


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Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: Al_Alguire] #2073844
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Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
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That's exactly right.........we wouldn't even be having this discussion if it weren't for him trying to run wheelie bars, which exposed the spring issue. And he wouldn't be trying to run bars if the car was set up right, because you don't need them

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Do you have to keep the front leaf spring eye in the stock location in X275?


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Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: Monte_Smith] #2074072
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
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That's exactly right.........we wouldn't even be having this discussion if it weren't for him trying to run wheelie bars, which exposed the spring issue. And he wouldn't be trying to run bars if the car was set up right, because you don't need them
ok I bite Monte tell me how fast have you been in 60ft N/A leaf springs.. and what where the Pacific details of this rear suspension pics would be helpful . This is what info I need ..or even pics and details of one off your friends N/A CARS. Please sir thank you.


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Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: WHITEDART] #2074112
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Just curious why it's needs to be a NA car? Does NA hp and torque affect the springs differently?


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Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: WHITEDART] #2074126
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Originally Posted By WHITEDART
Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
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That's exactly right.........we wouldn't even be having this discussion if it weren't for him trying to run wheelie bars, which exposed the spring issue. And he wouldn't be trying to run bars if the car was set up right, because you don't need them
ok I bite Monte tell me how fast have you been in 60ft N/A leaf springs.. and what where the Pacific details of this rear suspension pics would be helpful . This is what info I need ..or even pics and details of one off your friends N/A CARS. Please sir thank you.


This is exactly what I meant early on when the OP decided anyone posting an alternative to HIS thought process and understanding would have to provide bona fides.

Figure it out OP, either junk the wheelie bars, and fix the rest of the car, of just keep making the back of the spring stiffer. That's what you wanted to hear in the first place.

What I really wanted was NHRA to make PS take off the wheelie bars. The class would take less time to run, and all the heros out there would see they don't need them.

So I'll get to the real nitty gritty. If I piss you off it won't be th first time the truth hurt someone's feelings. What you really want is some one to provide you with pics and details of what you need to fix your car. My suggestion is the same as Monte and a few others. That is, start learning chassis. Spend your time and money doing the work of learning chassis. Then you will KNOW and UNDERSTAND what your car wants. It wants you to apply the torque in a slower, smoother manner. Learn learn learn.

BTW, I don't race, don't on a car and almost never go to the track. I have zero bona fides.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Originally Posted By madscientist
Originally Posted By WHITEDART
Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
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That's exactly right.........we wouldn't even be having this discussion if it weren't for him trying to run wheelie bars, which exposed the spring issue. And he wouldn't be trying to run bars if the car was set up right, because you don't need them
ok I bite Monte tell me how fast have you been in 60ft N/A leaf springs.. and what where the Pacific details of this rear suspension pics would be helpful . This is what info I need ..or even pics and details of one off your friends N/A CARS. Please sir thank you.


This is exactly what I meant early on when the OP decided anyone posting an alternative to HIS thought process and understanding would have to provide bona fides.

Figure it out OP, either junk the wheelie bars, and fix the rest of the car, of just keep making the back of the spring stiffer. That's what you wanted to hear in the first place.

What I really wanted was NHRA to make PS take off the wheelie bars. The class would take less time to run, and all the heros out there would see they don't need them.

So I'll get to the real nitty gritty. If I piss you off it won't be th first time the truth hurt someone's feelings. What you really want is some one to provide you with pics and details of what you need to fix your car. My suggestion is the same as Monte and a few others. That is, start learning chassis. Spend your time and money doing the work of learning chassis. Then you will KNOW and UNDERSTAND what your car wants. It wants you to apply the torque in a slower, smoother manner. Learn learn learn.

BTW, I don't race, don't on a car and almost never go to the track. I have zero bona fides.

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Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: WHITEDART] #2074139
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Re: Fast leaf spring guys inside [Re: WHITEDART] #2074171
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what does that chevy's suspension look like? maybe you could get some ideas from that...

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