It's 2016. 7k might as well be at idle.

Some day, it will occur dawn on some of us that RPM is just as important as torque, maybe more so.

If you can't spin a 511 7k may as well park it. Guys leave way too much on the table with tight converters, no gear and tow truck RPM.

I leave at 2200 rpm and shift at 6200, hit the stripe at 6700.
10.20's .30's thru thru the mufflers in street trim with the exception of 10.5 slicks. Don't know how much more for a mostly street car would need.

My 500 would spin over 9000 but that probably wasn't too good for it. I shifted it at 7000-7500 on the track to be "easy" on the motor. We'll see how it likes to rev with the steel rods I am putting in instead of the aluminum ones.

As for the beehive springs, I saw the springs on the Burick Monte works on one day at the track. They are really thin bee hives which blew me away as that thing probably has about an inch of valve lift.

@ Madscientist

Generally maybe but a lot heads today have the flow capabilities to push the Torque and HP peaks past where a lot of people feel safe pushing a stock block RB motor. Also not everybody runs MW heads on their 511's so the port flow/velocity is somewhat of an RPM "check valve" limiting the RPM no matter where the valvetrain could go.

and (opinions vary I guess but) many if not most 493-511's usually wind up dropping into heavy B and E bodies with automatics and mid 3 series carriers, so not everybody wants or needs to turn them much past 6200-6500 to have a fun and formidable torque monster. Ron's (383Man's) 63 B has a comparably mild Street driven 493 with ported EZ MW's and runs 10.70's through the muffs, not too shabby and he's not revving all that high. so I guess just because you can doesn't mean you should...or even need to.

And your stock blocks will thank you for it by lasting a lot longer

no, but thru the traps maybe.

I have only seen that in magazines.

i have made up my mind on the hydro roller. Really dont want to go that way. I put one in my dads motor and it wont rev past 5500 which is fine for him as hes 89 anyway. I doubt he revs it past 4000 anyway. Thanks for all the input on this subject. Gives me a bunch to ponder.

So, you say you can't afford one of them high dollar roller cam setups like the rich Ricky racers have? No problem, bro, just do what Joe Dirt did!

Who said anything about revving it to 7 grand? The LS7 was just an example.

@ mad scientist, there literally millions of beehive springs in use (and some pretty high horsepower high revving engines) with an almost next to nothing failure rate. IF you broke so many springs.. something else is at foot.

sweet. maybe i can get enough money for one of those fansy haircuts like that too.

I dont think I said that I do use the Comp EDM lifters and as said i have had great results with no problems so far in the almost 5 years my eng has been together. Ron

That is great advice as its what I did. I was considering a roller but after talking to Dwayne and telling him how much I plan to drive on the street he recomended that I would most likely be happier with a solid flat tappet which I am. He speced my custom grind solid flat tappet and I could not be happier with the results and great service it has given me.
Dwayne is a Pro who does this every day and knows what he is doing and I would say he is as good as anyone out there.
Heck I have been an auto tech all my life and been around hotrods and muscle cars most of my life and feel I know cams pretty well. But I dont do it (Performance cams and heads) for a living every day and I dont run my engines on dyno's like he does when he builds them so he gets to see what has worked best and he can test his work which helps him know what works good and best. You cant go wrong calling Dwayne and talking to him. Good luck with your build which ever cam you decide on. Ron

Thank you for the kind words Wize. I foot brake to about 2k on the line and shift about 6200 and trap around 6400. Thats when I look at the tach because I wont lie most of the time I shift when it feels right but its about 6200. Ron

I tossed around the idea of a hydro roller just for the low maintainence of it. thanks for the thought, but i have made up my mind on the solid lifter whether it be roller or flat, but i'm still leaning tward the flat. thanks

Thanks Ron, that is good advise. I will be calling him in the next few weeks. what comp and cam you running if ya dont mind?

for the record I do not like reving any engine past its point of making power. I was doing some calculations on Wallace for rpm thou traps with 4.30 gear and 28" tire. results were just over 7000rpm. may have to put the 4.10 back in.
anyone have Dwayne porter number?

802-951-1955

thanks

Say what? Don't know what you thought you saw, but it was no bee hive spring. What you saw was a Pac triple spring with 450lbs of seat pressure. And the cam is about 1.200 on the lift