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Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: Alaskan_TA] #206167 10/24/10 01:49 AM 10/24/10 01:49 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A. M mike s top fuel
mike s top fuel M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A.	Good stuff! Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: mike s] #206168 10/24/10 01:02 PM 10/24/10 01:02 PM
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Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,662 Hamtramck, PA	I wish I had more.

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: mike s] #206169 10/25/10 02:41 AM 10/25/10 02:41 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 705 USA R rftroy super stock
rftroy super stock R Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 705 USA	Quote: Creative did not make a tool for Chry.They did fab the tools for us.Chry did not hand modify any Hemi fenders. Now I'm wondering; the parts book page shows a different part number for 15 inch tire fenders. But if the fenders were only modified by Creative on the cars after assembly, why was there a separate part number in the parts book? Who modified the fenders to be sold through dealership parts departments? Bob AAR 4-speed 3.91, Tor-Red; 70 440 6 pack Roadrunner 4-speed 3.54, Plum Crazy; 68 Formula S conv 383 4-speed 3.23, Electric Blue; 69 Barracuda conv Slant 6 OD4 2.94, 71 B5 Blue; 78 Lil' Red Truck, Red; 70 Challenger S/E. 505 6 pack, Passon 5-speed, 3.55, B7 Blue

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: rftroy] #206170 10/25/10 11:32 AM 10/25/10 11:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A. M mike s top fuel
mike s top fuel M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A.	Quote: Quote: Creative did not make a tool for Chry.They did fab the tools for us.Chry did not hand modify any Hemi fenders. Now I'm wondering; the parts book page shows a different part number for 15 inch tire fenders. But if the fenders were only modified by Creative on the cars after assembly, why was there a separate part number in the parts book? Who modified the fenders to be sold through dealership parts departments? Bob They(Chry)stamped new fenders with the problem area removed.They did not hand modify the fenders. Availability of the new fenders seems to coincide with the March 5 cut off date for the moldings. This fender was put on the cars (starting in March) and used for service. Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: mike s] #206171 10/25/10 12:55 PM 10/25/10 12:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,407 Brantford Ontario 69_SIX_PACK master
69_SIX_PACK master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,407 Brantford Ontario	Quote: all worked at the other Creative facility and worked on the following projects, Daytona's,Superbirds and A-12's. News to me that Creative had anything to do with the assembly of A12's. I would think they had limited involvement if any. Maybe they fab'ed up the rear hood pin brackets? Another possible source of the fibreglass hood was Plaza Manufacturing in Toronto. Dave www.a12mopar.com

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: 69_SIX_PACK] #206172 10/25/10 01:09 PM 10/25/10 01:09 PM
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DAYCLONA I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,160 Mass	News to me that Creative had anything to do with the assembly of A12's. Dave .......

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: 69_SIX_PACK] #206173 10/25/10 01:35 PM 10/25/10 01:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A. M mike s top fuel
mike s top fuel M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A.	Quote: Quote: all worked at the other Creative facility and worked on the following projects, Daytona's,Superbirds and A-12's. News to me that Creative had anything to do with the assembly of A12's. I would think they had limited involvement if any. Maybe they fab'ed up the rear hood pin brackets? Another possible source of the fibreglass hood was Plaza Manufacturing in Toronto. Dave Creative installed the A-12 hoods.One correction from my earlier post.The cars were delivered to Creative with the rear pin bracket installed and painted at the factory.Examples of unmolested cars show no paint on the rear of the bracket or the inner fender behind the bracket.The rest of the hardware (pins etc) were sent to Creative in the trunk of the cars. Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: mike s] #206174 10/25/10 08:20 PM 10/25/10 08:20 PM
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curbman68 enthusiast C Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 369 Chicago	A guy I know has an NOS Cuda fender that has the part # 3579379 ink stamped on it, and it has the lip folded down similar to the early build Hemi fenders, but not exactly the same. What do you guys think, did this fender come from the factory like this, or was it more likely modified before my guy got it? He has had it for at least 20 years and it was like that when he got it. 6268572-NOSHemifender.JPG (142 downloads)

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: mike s] #206175 10/25/10 11:41 PM 10/25/10 11:41 PM
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69_SIX_PACK master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,407 Brantford Ontario	Quote: Quote: Quote: all worked at the other Creative facility and worked on the following projects, Daytona's,Superbirds and A-12's. News to me that Creative had anything to do with the assembly of A12's. I would think they had limited involvement if any. Maybe they fab'ed up the rear hood pin brackets? Another possible source of the fibreglass hood was Plaza Manufacturing in Toronto. Dave Creative installed the A-12 hoods.One correction from my earlier post.The cars were delivered to Creative with the rear pin bracket installed and painted at the factory.Examples of unmolested cars show no paint on the rear of the bracket or the inner fender behind the bracket.The rest of the hardware (pins etc) were sent to Creative in the trunk of the cars. I really don't think so, read through the Tech Bulletin to the LYNCH ROAD ASSEMBLY PLANT. Pretty much covers everything in great detail. http://sixpacksixbbl.homestead.com/instructions.html Dave www.a12mopar.com

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: DAYCLONA] #206176 10/25/10 11:48 PM 10/25/10 11:48 PM
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69_SIX_PACK master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,407 Brantford Ontario	Quote: News to me that Creative had anything to do with the assembly of A12's. Dave ....... Dave

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: 69_SIX_PACK] #206177 10/26/10 01:55 AM 10/26/10 01:55 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A. M mike s top fuel
mike s top fuel M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A.	Quote: Quote: News to me that Creative had anything to do with the assembly of A12's. Dave ....... Dave Think what you want they may have planned to install the hood at the factory but for some reason Creative installed the hoods.Btw the last page mentioning the hood was packaged with the pins etc in the trunk.Why did they change? That I have no idea on. Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: curbman68] #206178 10/26/10 02:03 AM 10/26/10 02:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A. M mike s top fuel
mike s top fuel M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A.	Quote: A guy I know has an NOS Cuda fender that has the part # 3579379 ink stamped on it, and it has the lip folded down similar to the early build Hemi fenders, but not exactly the same. What do you guys think, did this fender come from the factory like this, or was it more likely modified before my guy got it? He has had it for at least 20 years and it was like that when he got it. That wasn't done at Creative(much too long)That is not the Hemi fender that was installed at the factory (not stamped)after early March 70.Looks like someone sort of copied the Creative hand mods. Does someone have a picture of the stamped fender,I think when you see that it will clear up most of the questions. Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: 69_SIX_PACK] #206179 10/26/10 03:22 AM 10/26/10 03:22 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,160 Mass DAYCLONA I Live Here
DAYCLONA I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,160 Mass	all worked at the other Creative facility and worked on the following projects, Daytona's,Superbirds and A-12's. News to me that Creative had anything to do with the assembly of A12's. I would think they had limited involvement if any. Maybe they fab'ed up the rear hood pin brackets? Another possible source of the fibreglass hood was Plaza Manufacturing in Toronto. Dave Creative installed the A-12 hoods.One correction from my earlier post.The cars were delivered to Creative with the rear pin bracket installed and painted at the factory.Examples of unmolested cars show no paint on the rear of the bracket or the inner fender behind the bracket.The rest of the hardware (pins etc) were sent to Creative in the trunk of the cars. I really don't think so, read through the Tech Bulletin to the LYNCH ROAD ASSEMBLY PLANT. Pretty much covers everything in great detail. http://sixpacksixbbl.homestead.com/instructions.html Dave Dave,...Creative's "signiture" installation of the hood pin benzels was unique to the A12's and Dodge Daytona models,....no other factory installation was performed like this on any model,....if you know what I'm talking about, you'll agree Mike

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: DAYCLONA] #206180 10/17/11 12:06 PM 10/17/11 12:06 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,485 So Cal	This 70 Hemi 4spd Challenger just surfaced and seen first in public at Fall Fling on Saturday. Is this a factory rolled fender? Or something the owner did? Car does not have "hemi fender" tag. More pics including fender tag here: https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0&fpart=7 6875559-000_0066.JPG (169 downloads) Last edited by autoxcuda; 10/17/11 12:11 PM.

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: autoxcuda] #206181 10/17/11 12:07 PM 10/17/11 12:07 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,485 So Cal	another pic 6875561-000_0067.JPG (180 downloads)

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: autoxcuda] #206182 10/17/11 12:09 PM 10/17/11 12:09 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,485 So Cal	and another pics. Maybe this pic could be lightened to see where the roll ends. 6875566-000_0072.JPG (125 downloads)

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: 6bblgt] #206183 10/17/11 03:23 PM 10/17/11 03:23 PM
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cataclysm80 master C Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,165 Florida	Quote: I agree - great thread - keep the info flowing!! Thanks again Mike S. Always good to see you here! Tav

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: autoxcuda] #206184 10/17/11 09:54 PM 10/17/11 09:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,662 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,662 Hamtramck, PA	Quote: Is this a factory rolled fender? Or something the owner did? I will say no. You can see the factory brace was in place when the car was undercoated. Did anyone get a close up photo of the tag without the VIN wiped out?

Re: E Body Hemi fender Question [Re: Alaskan_TA] #206185 10/18/11 04:16 PM 10/18/11 04:16 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,165 Florida C cataclysm80 master
cataclysm80 master C Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,165 Florida	I think creative removed the bracing when they did the fender lip, so it would be normal to see that spray pattern in the undercoat because undercoat was applied at the factory before the cars were sent to creative. That said, I don't have an opinion on whether that particular fender is original or owner altered. I think you'd need some more light inside the wheel well to tell. Tav

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