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Re: E Body Hemi fender Question
[Re: 66HP2]
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10/20/10 08:38 PM
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My hemi Challenegr fenders are rolled and the braces cut out. They are original to the car.
Chris from New Jersey
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Re: E Body Hemi fender Question
[Re: fig426]
#206128
10/20/10 08:49 PM
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My hemi Challenegr fenders are rolled and the braces cut out. They are original to the car.
& it's a '70 or '71? the SPD is when? Got pics? 
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Re: E Body Hemi fender Question
[Re: hemicar1971]
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10/20/10 09:04 PM
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Ok the A-12 cars came to Creative complete exc for the hood.Creative installed the hood pin brackets w/pins,lanyards and the hood.I am not 100% sure that all the Superbees were done there.No doubt on the Roadrunners.
Yes the Challenger had the brace cut out.We were rarely happy with the hand mods we did.We only had one shot at it per car.The hand mod is more a pinch than a roll often rather bumpy.
One more item the later 70 and 71 factory Hemi fenders were not rolled,they were stamped to remove the area that was a problem.I am only speaking of Hemi e-bodies.So far I have not seen any picture of one here including the nos fender in the other post concerning the e body fenders.I believe they (Hemi-fender)have a different part number also.I have been working on getting the number.No luck yet only confirmation that a separate number did exist.
Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike
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Re: E Body Hemi fender Question
[Re: 66HP2]
#206130
10/20/10 09:07 PM
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5.The 340 T/A and 340 Six Pac hoods were designed and built at the above mentioned studio.I worked on that project (at least 10 different versions) while we waited for more 70 Hemi e-bodies.
Did Creative have a Canadian location?
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Re: E Body Hemi fender Question
[Re: mike s]
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10/20/10 10:09 PM
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Mike are you asking for me to take some pictures of the fenders on my 1971 Challengers or are you more interested in the 1970s. Both fenders on each car look identical tp each other in the rolled crushed modification zone before the braces. This would mean that it was done via a machine and not a person with some tool.
Thanks for taking some time to answer some questions. I have about one hundred more but I will give others a chance to ask some.
1971 HEMI E BODY REGISTRY
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Re: E Body Hemi fender Question
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10/21/10 01:02 PM
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My hemi Challenegr fenders are rolled and the braces cut out. They are original to the car.
& it's a '70 or '71? the SPD is when? Got pics?
Dan,
I can get you a pic of my 70 hemi Challenger passenger fender it's original to the car.
And I think I have an NOS 71 fender on my 71 340 car that I can take a pic of too.
Curious - Is it true that Hemi Challengers never wheel trim????
Morty
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Re: E Body Hemi fender Question
[Re: mike s]
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10/21/10 04:08 PM
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I believe they (Hemi-fender)have a different part number also.I have been working on getting the number.No luck yet only confirmation that a separate number did exist.
Yes, as I recall, they did.
I was working the parts counter of the local Chry/Plym dealer back in 1974 or 5 and we ordered a fender for my friend's (now my) AAR. The parts book had a separate listing; I believe it may have been listed as "for 15 inch wheel". We ordered a passenger fender, but it had been superseded to the standard fender.
I still have the NOS fender from ~1975. I will have to take a look at it around the wheel opening.
I don't know if the different number was in the 70 book, or the 70-71 book, or what update set it may have been in. When we would get update pages, sometimes only a few at a time, the low totem parts grunt would pull out the old and replace with the new pages.
The parts manager gave us the 70 book when they were set for being discarded, so I will check tonight and see if it has the different part numbers.
I'm sure someone here probably has an edition that would show the numbers.....unless my old memory is really faulty.
Bob
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68 Formula S conv 383 4-speed 3.23, Electric Blue;
69 Barracuda conv Slant 6 OD4 2.94, 71 B5 Blue;
78 Lil' Red Truck, Red;
70 Challenger S/E. 505 6 pack, Passon 5-speed, 3.55, B7 Blue
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Re: E Body Hemi fender Question
[Re: mike s]
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10/21/10 04:13 PM
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Morty as I posted above
"The Challenger moldings(all 4)were discarded because they were too thin. No Hemi Challengers should have wheel lip moldings.They were not delivered with them."
I might add this was the case for the 70 Hemi Challengers.I would guess that some owners or even dealers put them back on because the cars were coded for them.
Mike,
I know what you said, that's why I'm asking! I've been in this is silly hobby a long time and I never heard that one. Since I have two hemi Challengers it might be a good thing for me to know  Just want to get some additional confirmation.
Thanks
Morty
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Re: E Body Hemi fender Question
[Re: mike s]
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10/21/10 09:07 PM
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5.The 340 T/A and 340 Six Pac hoods were designed and built at the above mentioned studio.I worked on that project (at least 10 different versions) while we waited for more 70 Hemi e-bodies.
Did Creative have a Canadian location?
Not that I knew of but they were around until the 90's.Creative was a full service company that could do almost any type job for the OEM's.They had complete machine shop,wood shop,design,styling and engineering and more.
OK.....
So, if your statement - "The 340 T/A and 340 Six Pac hoods were designed and built at the above mentioned studio." is true, can you explain why the T/A hoods were stamped MADE IN CANADA? 
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Re: E Body Hemi fender Question
[Re: mike s]
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10/21/10 09:16 PM
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My hemi Challenegr fenders are rolled and the braces cut out. They are original to the car.
& it's a '70 or '71? the SPD is when? Got pics?
Dan,
I can get you a pic of my 70 hemi Challenger passenger fender it's original to the car.
And I think I have an NOS 71 fender on my 71 340 car that I can take a pic of too.
Curious - Is it true that Hemi Challengers never wheel trim????
Morty
Morty as I posted above
"The Challenger moldings(all 4)were discarded because they were too thin. No Hemi Challengers should have wheel lip moldings.They were not delivered with them."
I might add this was the case for the 70 Hemi Challengers.I would guess that some owners or even dealers put them back on because the cars were coded for them.
1970 Hemi Challenger wheel lip moldings appear to have been coded on broadcast sheets until about mid-model year. I do not have many examples here, but I checked them those I do have.
If folks have broadcast sheets for them can scan & email them to me I may be able to come up with an approximate date for the change.
Normally a change like this would be noted in a PIB (Product Information Bulletin) & sent out to dealerships so they knew about it. My set is not complete, for anyone that has them can you check yours for this issue please? 
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Re: E Body Hemi fender Question
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10/22/10 12:53 AM
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5.The 340 T/A and 340 Six Pac hoods were designed and built at the above mentioned studio.I worked on that project (at least 10 different versions) while we waited for more 70 Hemi e-bodies.
Did Creative have a Canadian location?
Not that I knew of but they were around until the 90's.Creative was a full service company that could do almost any type job for the OEM's.They had complete machine shop,wood shop,design,styling and engineering and more.
OK.....
So, if your statement - "The 340 T/A and 340 Six Pac hoods were designed and built at the above mentioned studio." is true, can you explain why the T/A hoods were stamped MADE IN CANADA?
Several original lift off RR hoods I have had were also stamped Made in Canada.
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