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Actual Build Costs #2053593
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Your results may vary, I like shiny things which always adds to the cost.

In before, "I can build a big block that makes that much power for Five grand"

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Re: Actual Build Costs [Re: Triple Threat] #2053631
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crank didn't come with reluctor wheel?

who wants to actually know what they spend?


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Nope, if it did the UPS man has mine.


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Thanks for uploading this! I'll probably be in this deep as well once I finish. Hopefully I can still keep finding deals here and there. I've been pretty blessed with the trades I've done and found a steel on a new Molnar crank ($575 shipped)

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Re: Actual Build Costs [Re: Adrielp] #2053705
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheese and rice I'm glad I'm stocked up with good old LA 340's and 360's for my budget 9 second combos. Thanks for the info.


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Start from scratch on an LA and see how it compares? Thanks for posting Dustin, that's about what I would have guessed.


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I honestly don't think there is much difference. If someone had a bunch of parts laying around already that obviously helps. If you're comparing from scratch I think its all about the same.

G3 you'll have less into heads and rocker gear than a comparable BB/SB, but you'll spend more on an intake. That's just one example.

I obviously made the move from a small block and was able to sell the majority of those parts to help offset costs. I also spent more money on certain pieces just because its what I wanted.

I did this quick cost comparison before I ventured down this path. It's rough, but you get the idea.

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-Dustin
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The big difference for me is I grab deals when I see them. I bought my R3 block, 360-1 heads, Indy intake, Stroker crank and rods, pistons,all machined, balanced and ready to assemble for 7500 dollars. My last set of Pistons I bought new cost me 200 dollars for a set costing 750 dollars. Lots of deal out there, especially now and I'm loving it.


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LOL @ Pitt


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I don't think there is a rule that you cannot go hunting deals on G3 stuff.


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Originally Posted By Triple Threat
Your results may vary, I like shiny things which always adds to the cost.

In before, "I can build a big block that makes that much power for Five grand"



Is that cam price accurate? If so who is that vendor?

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I bet delta can re-grind a hemi cam under $100 for ya, I know they re-do my SB cams for that and they work great.

Pittsburg is onto something, I have very small amount in my 410 stroker SB but it has taken me years to gather the parts one smokin deal at a time. I can not seem to find much aftermarket stuff for my 5.7 hemi good deal or not. I did get a screaming deal on a 2011 core with a noisy VCT thingy and 2003 core so I got an awesome top end and an awesome foundation but nothing else seems to come up, the crappy intakes start at $500 and go up fast for anything good, even used rods,cranks, pistons... seem to be as much as a new SB stuff. The rotating assembly don't make no sense because they are at least $500 more than comparable SB stuff for what differance? A tone ring? The only place you save with the hemi is a head NASCAR would have killed for 20 years ago and a solid block, no aftermarket block needed for most. Everything else is more than a SB mopar, don't even want to think about compareing it to an LS, I will never run an LS in my cars but dang they got it made. I don't see how anyone can make money selling LS stuff, there is sooooooo much competetion there has to be no profit margin left.


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Originally Posted By 496 A-body

Is that cam price accurate? If so who is that vendor?


Yes, but I got a deal, not sure everyone will get that. Anyone who is a comp dealer should be able to order one for you.

I got mine through GremlinSteve here.


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I traded a 19 yr old 400/451 BB for a 6.1 core with intake. If you count swapping to EFI in with the swap to a Gen III at the same time, they are a bargain IMO. I wanted to ditch the carburetor at the same time, which I sold for barely less than I paid for it 12 yrs ago. My point is to make it work for you, if starting from scratch and writing a check for everything, yeah they may cost more. So what, they are bada$$.

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Originally Posted By 72Swinger
I traded a 19 yr old 400/451 BB for a 6.1 core with intake. If you count swapping to EFI in with the swap to a Gen III at the same time, they are a bargain IMO. I wanted to ditch the carburetor at the same time, which I sold for barely less than I paid for it 12 yrs ago. My point is to make it work for you, if starting from scratch and writing a check for everything, yeah they may cost more. So what, they are bada$$.


They dont cost more. Dustin's has custom pistons, you dont "need" an ATI balancer, in most cases you dont need Cometic head gaskets, my water pump and hoses cost less than $100, if you buy intake from Mike Ware it only costs 550, i bought tie bars but not collars because you really dont need the collars. That is probably 2k right there if you compare Dustins engine to mine.

What if you got a 6.4 for 3k, put a stroker and cam in it. Could we then claim how expensive LA are?


The real comedy is that the "member" thats always saying how expensive g3s are has a hard on to drop 5k+ to put victor heads on a LA

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And an LA block will wither and die at the HP levels a JY Gen III can take. Nothing against an LA at all but to build one to match the HP of a Gen III and live (aftermarket block) will end up costing more if you're honest with yourself. The entry level LA heads (Edelbrocks)would needs a healthy ($$$) port job to match a stock 6.1 or Eagle head, never mind an Apache. Not trying to dissuade anyone from doing an LA if they want but don't blow smoke up everyone's a$& about how expensive Gen III's are, compare apples to apples

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deals on gen-III's are out there, just not as often.

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Originally Posted By HotRodDave
I bet delta can re-grind a hemi cam under $100 for ya, I know they re-do my SB cams for that and they work great.


When regrinding a cam the existing lobe limits how much you can change it, that may be an option for a mild build but his engine has over 13:1 compression.
I have a cam taken from a 6.1 dragpak engine, both Bullet and Cam Motion told me they couldn't regrind it and add enough duration to suit my build.

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Originally Posted By sixpackgut
Originally Posted By 72Swinger
I traded a 19 yr old 400/451 BB for a 6.1 core with intake. If you count swapping to EFI in with the swap to a Gen III at the same time, they are a bargain IMO. I wanted to ditch the carburetor at the same time, which I sold for barely less than I paid for it 12 yrs ago. My point is to make it work for you, if starting from scratch and writing a check for everything, yeah they may cost more. So what, they are bada$$.


They dont cost more. Dustin's has custom pistons, you dont "need" an ATI balancer, in most cases you dont need Cometic head gaskets, my water pump and hoses cost less than $100, if you buy intake from Mike Ware it only costs 550, i bought tie bars but not collars because you really dont need the collars. That is probably 2k right there if you compare Dustins engine to mine.

What if you got a 6.4 for 3k, put a stroker and cam in it. Could we then claim how expensive LA are?


The real comedy is that the "member" thats always saying how expensive g3s are has a hard on to drop 5k+ to put victor heads on a LA
by scratch I meant SCRATCH, the cost of Nick knacks for the Gen III has went up quite a bit in the last couple years. Bolts,studs,gaskets,rockers,pushrods,lifters,lifter guides,alternator and accessories drive,coils and valve covers ARE NOT cheap anymore. I have right around 8k in mine including stand alone EFI and couldn't be more happy. 600+HP pump gas engine runs on pump gas, zero maintenance and probably could knock down 20mpg.


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Originally Posted By ntstlgl1970
deals on gen-III's are out there, just not as often.


Yes they are, just have to watch for them
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231849702318
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322016612780
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161905913116
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272198940822
Cheap prices on Probe 5.7/6.1 pistons


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