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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads?
[Re: 2boltmain]
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04/03/16 11:17 AM
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MR_P_BODY
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I understand loyalty to our nation. It gets confusing when there is someone who only buys Ford, Chevy or Holley and have pledged their allegiance to these American companies but they have ZERO issues with these USA companies SOURCING OUT WORK TO AN OVERSEAS PART OF THE GLOBE. If someone is a buy ONLY AMERICAN person they should have stood up and protested GM Ford GE RCA Troy Built ect ect ect years even decades ago the instant those companies decided to have components,sub assemblies and entire complete products made in China. If you dont like things made outside the USA you should not lecture moparts members- you should protest/boycott the American MFGR of choice and demand they be 100% made here. Where is the line drawn? "My Ford is 80% made in the USA and your Chevy is 79% made in the USA so I am the better American by 1%..." The big 3 auto makers partnered up with a Japanese mfgr way back in the 1970s. People share disadain for Toyata and praise for GM when GM has been relying on Japanese tech, labor and parts for decades but yet someone who buys a Honda or Nissan is wrong. You dont get the part of STEALING.. a overseas company buys 1 head and makes it their own. as for a company that sends their work overseas thats up to them and I dont have to buy it either(I havent bought a Holley manifold in 20 years).. I still buy Chrysler because I worked there 35 years and they pay my bills so I still have loyalty to them.. even if I couldnt stand the company at times... but this started with the stealing part 
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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads?
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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04/03/16 12:10 PM
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justinp61
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I understand loyalty to our nation. It gets confusing when there is someone who only buys Ford, Chevy or Holley and have pledged their allegiance to these American companies but they have ZERO issues with these USA companies SOURCING OUT WORK TO AN OVERSEAS PART OF THE GLOBE. If someone is a buy ONLY AMERICAN person they should have stood up and protested GM Ford GE RCA Troy Built ect ect ect years even decades ago the instant those companies decided to have components,sub assemblies and entire complete products made in China. If you dont like things made outside the USA you should not lecture moparts members- you should protest/boycott the American MFGR of choice and demand they be 100% made here. Where is the line drawn? "My Ford is 80% made in the USA and your Chevy is 79% made in the USA so I am the better American by 1%..." The big 3 auto makers partnered up with a Japanese mfgr way back in the 1970s. People share disadain for Toyata and praise for GM when GM has been relying on Japanese tech, labor and parts for decades but yet someone who buys a Honda or Nissan is wrong.
1 head and makes it their own. as for a company that sends their work overseas thats up to them and I dont have to buy it either(I havent bought a Holley manifold in 20 years).. I still buy Chrysler because I worked there 35 years and they pay my bills so I still have loyalty to them.. even if I couldnt stand the company at times... but this started with the stealing part At least someone else get it.
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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads?
[Re: cdstl]
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04/03/16 12:26 PM
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2boltmain
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You dont get the part of STEALING.. a overseas company buys
1 head and makes it their own. as for a company that sends
their work overseas thats up to them and I dont have to buy
it either(I havent bought a Holley manifold in 20 years)..
I still buy Chrysler because I worked there 35 years and they
pay my bills so I still have loyalty to them.. even if I couldnt
stand the company at times... but this started with the stealing
part
I stand corrected- Intellectual theft is bad. I should have made that clear in my post. China is the biggest offender of that.
I do stand by my other points. "Jim bashes Bills Suzuki because its not American made when Jims old Harley from the factory has a Keihin carburetor, Kayaba forks and a Hitachi or Nippendenso starter." Not a slam against Harley- just an example.
Keep old mopars alive.
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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads?
[Re: 2boltmain]
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04/03/16 01:13 PM
04/03/16 01:13 PM
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MR_P_BODY
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You dont get the part of STEALING.. a overseas company buys
1 head and makes it their own. as for a company that sends
their work overseas thats up to them and I dont have to buy
it either(I havent bought a Holley manifold in 20 years)..
I still buy Chrysler because I worked there 35 years and they
pay my bills so I still have loyalty to them.. even if I couldnt
stand the company at times... but this started with the stealing
part
I stand corrected- Intellectual theft is bad. I should have made that clear in my post. China is the biggest offender of that.
I do stand by my other points. "Jim bashes Bills Suzuki because its not American made when Jims old Harley from the factory has a Keihin carburetor, Kayaba forks and a Hitachi or Nippendenso starter." Not a slam against Harley- just an example. As I said already... if a company buys off shore parts for their company then its up to the person thats buying said product if it matters to them... its like Rambler use to be.. they used everyone elses parts to build a car.. as to a lot of the American companies.. they fell way behind and the off shore companies that were starting up started with new technology like injection and alts
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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads?
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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04/03/16 02:14 PM
04/03/16 02:14 PM
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CMcAllister
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I understand loyalty to our nation. It gets confusing when there is someone who only buys Ford, Chevy or Holley and have pledged their allegiance to these American companies but they have ZERO issues with these USA companies SOURCING OUT WORK TO AN OVERSEAS PART OF THE GLOBE. If someone is a buy ONLY AMERICAN person they should have stood up and protested GM Ford GE RCA Troy Built ect ect ect years even decades ago the instant those companies decided to have components,sub assemblies and entire complete products made in China. If you dont like things made outside the USA you should not lecture moparts members- you should protest/boycott the American MFGR of choice and demand they be 100% made here. Where is the line drawn? "My Ford is 80% made in the USA and your Chevy is 79% made in the USA so I am the better American by 1%..." The big 3 auto makers partnered up with a Japanese mfgr way back in the 1970s. People share disadain for Toyata and praise for GM when GM has been relying on Japanese tech, labor and parts for decades but yet someone who buys a Honda or Nissan is wrong. You dont get the part of STEALING.. a overseas company buys 1 head and makes it their own. as for a company that sends their work overseas thats up to them and I dont have to buy it either(I havent bought a Holley manifold in 20 years).. I still buy Chrysler because I worked there 35 years and they pay my bills so I still have loyalty to them.. even if I couldnt stand the company at times... but this started with the stealing part True. That is especially egregious. The Chinese are not the only ones guilty of this. There are a number of instances of American based companies doing this. Reverse engineering someone else's product, producing a copy and putting their name on it with little engineering costs or credit (re: money) for the developer. Without naming names, cylinder heads, intakes, and transbrakes are a few items that come to mind. Sometimes we see something new, different or unique that is a great idea. Somebody years ago was the first to incorporate an anti-roll device in a modern 4-link suspension. Now it's standard equipment. Improving existing designs is how technology moves forward. Making a cheap, inferior copy of someone's product in order to profit from their reputation and expertise is unethical.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads?
[Re: cdstl]
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04/03/16 03:16 PM
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Its a TRAP!
DARTH V8Я
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Oh No!! I just had a moron attack!
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Its a TRAP!
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"You don't get the part of STEALING.. a overseas company buys
1 head and makes it their own"
Isn't that basically what Edelbrock did from day one? I think that's exactly what they did.
But you're right, don't like it.. don't buy it.
When it takes more than a sweet mullet to prove you rule at the trailer park..
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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads?
[Re: cdstl]
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04/03/16 11:31 PM
04/03/16 11:31 PM
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Nearly everything is based off something else. Lets face it, an alum smallblock Mopar head, is an alum smallblock Mopar head. There may be slight variations or better quality castings and machine work, but it is what it is. Maybe the ones in question are a direct copy of an Edelbrock, maybe their not. You would need to digitize it to know. But where did Vic himself get the idea, he sure didn't engineer it from scratch. If it's an EXACT copy of a factory head, except in aluminum, I guess we could say Vic "stole" the design and cast it in alum
As far as buying American, that's great, but if you ONLY buy American, you don't own a TV, a cell phone or basically ANY electronics or home appliances and many other things
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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads?
[Re: cdstl]
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04/05/16 12:04 PM
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Crizila
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Welcome to global economy! Way too late to worry about where it's made - and there is not much linkage any more between quality and where it is made. Your next set of heads will probably say "made in Cuba".
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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads?
[Re: cdstl]
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04/05/16 12:59 PM
04/05/16 12:59 PM
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I saw a flyer on Facebook for BPE's new small block offering. Looked nice, offering a CNC offset and non offset small block head.
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