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Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: cudadon] #2034552
03/19/16 04:57 PM
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I cut the fancy ends off and got it to fit up
nice now.. all clamped in tight.. its back
together and running.. now I have a couple of
other jobs to do on it.. install the power inverter
and align the front end.. I do the alignment myself
so thats no big deal.. right now I have too much
caster on the right wheel
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Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2034729
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hang n there. better to get all the issues out of the way now than on Drag Week. You will tame it.
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Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: SCATPACK 1] #2034754
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Yeah I know this is just a minor issue but its
something all the time... I sure hope I get it
sorted out soon... I'd like to drive it instead
of working on it all the time
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Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2034902
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that thing wasn't green before was it ? my folly was a green car will fight you mercilessly until you tame it, then you will not be ably to kill it. every green car i owned in my entire life was like that, and in the end, i couldn't kill 'em no matter how hard i tried. all lasted until sold or dying of old age/body rot. you are on the home stretch for sure now ! boogie
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Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: moparx] #2034937
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LOL... no.. it was silver.. I have never owned
a green car
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Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2034983
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My car is green work.

Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2035006
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Green car and green bike. can't kill either, no matter how hard I try


Faster, Faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death...

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66 Belv. II - just a streetcar
88 Mustang - turbo LS beater
Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2035033
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I do the alignment myself
so thats no big deal.. right now I have too much
caster on the right wheel


^^^Mr.P how hard is this?^^^

Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: racerx] #2035042
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Originally Posted By racerx
I do the alignment myself
so thats no big deal.. right now I have too much
caster on the right wheel


^^^Mr.P how hard is this?^^^


Real easy with struts and a inclineometer(I
use a magnetic digital one) and a tape measure
for the toe... this is really one of the only
times I wish I had a platform hoist... but I set
it up on blocks so its at ride height but up on
blocks so I can get my base numbers.. then its just
move the heim joints on the lower arm to get my 6*
caster and 0 camber.. I like about 1/32 to 1/16 toe
in.. I have to borrow the wife to have her sit in the
seat while I get the base numbers and when I think its
done to re-check
EDIT
I KNOW my shop floor is level from when I built
the shop.. I used a transit when I layed it out
and after it was done I poured water on it and
used levels and the transit to verify it was
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Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2035045
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By racerx
I do the alignment myself
so thats no big deal.. right now I have too much
caster on the right wheel


^^^Mr.P how hard is this?^^^


Real easy with struts and a inclineometer(I
use a magnetic digital one) and a tape measure
for the toe... this is really one of the only
times I wish I had a platform hoist... but I set
it up on blocks so its at ride height but up on
blocks so I can get my base numbers.. then its just
move the heim joints on the lower arm to get my 6*
caster and 0 camber.. I like about 1/32 to 1/16 toe
in.. I have to borrow the wife to have her sit in the
seat while I get the base numbers and when I think its
done to re-check
wave

Thaxs... up i'll be installing one of the Bob's frontend here in a week or two and I hate to drag it to a alignment shop to have it aline, and thought how hard is this.. wave

Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: racerx] #2035052
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Originally Posted By racerx
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By racerx
I do the alignment myself
so thats no big deal.. right now I have too much
caster on the right wheel


^^^Mr.P how hard is this?^^^


Real easy with struts and a inclineometer(I
use a magnetic digital one) and a tape measure
for the toe... this is really one of the only
times I wish I had a platform hoist... but I set
it up on blocks so its at ride height but up on
blocks so I can get my base numbers.. then its just
move the heim joints on the lower arm to get my 6*
caster and 0 camber.. I like about 1/32 to 1/16 toe
in.. I have to borrow the wife to have her sit in the
seat while I get the base numbers and when I think its
done to re-check
wave

Thaxs... up i'll be installing one of the Bob's frontend here in a week or two and I hate to drag it to a alignment shop to have it aline, and thought how hard is this.. wave


I have the old magnetic gauge that you put on the spindle
but I dont use that with the struts
EDIT
I welded up a little bridge that the inclineometer
mounts on and that slides in between the coils of
the spring so its resting on the strut body itself
to get a good reading.. I do it in both directions
for the camber and caster... the hardest part is the
toe in.. Laying on the floor and turning the heims
for the toe in
wave

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Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2035083
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By racerx
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By racerx
I do the alignment myself
so thats no big deal.. right now I have too much
caster on the right wheel


^^^Mr.P how hard is this?^^^


Real easy with struts and a inclineometer(I
use a magnetic digital one) and a tape measure
for the toe... this is really one of the only
times I wish I had a platform hoist... but I set
it up on blocks so its at ride height but up on
blocks so I can get my base numbers.. then its just
move the heim joints on the lower arm to get my 6*
caster and 0 camber.. I like about 1/32 to 1/16 toe
in.. I have to borrow the wife to have her sit in the
seat while I get the base numbers and when I think its
done to re-check
wave

Thaxs... up i'll be installing one of the Bob's frontend here in a week or two and I hate to drag it to a alignment shop to have it aline, and thought how hard is this.. wave


I have the old magnetic gauge that you put on the spindle
but I dont use that with the struts
EDIT
I welded up a little bridge that the inclineometer
mounts on and that slides in between the coils of
the spring so its resting on the strut body itself
to get a good reading.. I do it in both directions
for the camber and caster... the hardest part is the
toe in.. Laying on the floor and turning the heims
for the toe in
wave

I found this video on YouTube, he makes it seems not to bad work
http://dragrace.academy/front-end-alignment/

Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: racerx] #2035108
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[/quote]
I found this video on YouTube, he makes it seems not to bad work
http://dragrace.academy/front-end-alignment/ [/quote]

That did give me the idea of using the steering arm as
my caster check.. I use the rotor also for the camber
thanks for that vid.... and I use the Strange struts
wave

Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2035124
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Mr.P do you do the 1" above race height on your alignment? Or do you just set it at ride height?



And also do you set it with toe-in work ?.....Thax. wave


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Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: racerx] #2035136
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Originally Posted By racerx
Mr.P do you do the 1" above race height on your alignment? Or do you just set it at ride height?



And also do you set it with toe-in work ?.....Thax. wave



I dont set it up the 1" on the street rod.. just
on the race car... and yes on the toe in... if you
go toe out the car will tend to dart around and will
get very weird handling... like I said I like 1/32 to
1/16 toe in on all on my stuff... but if you run a
a A-arm you would most likely run 1/16 or even
a bit more toe in... unless you do a toe curve on the
car to see if it goes toe out.. it can be corrected
if you read the Mopar Chassis book
wave

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Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2035149
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OK.....Thaxs thumbs I have one of the old Mopar chassis books I'll take a look and see what it says.

Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: racerx] #2035231
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I had to change the springs on the fronts so
I had to pull the front end apart and I know
I moved the heim on the front arm but when I
put it back together I forgot to re-check it..
thats why I have to do a re-alignment now..
stupid on my part but I was more concerned with
the trans and forgot it... so its just more work
for me... like usual
wave

Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2035379
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Mr.P that car has been fighting you for years,you been hanging in there hope you get all those gremlins out of it and enjoy it the summer.

Re: I Hate My Darn Car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2035392
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Hey, sorry for the troubles. At least you have your car out and about. That's a plus. up Mine will finally be coming out this spring after a 6 year lay up. Not as bad as Brad h,s 10 year lay up or so. coffee

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Originally Posted By Sport440
Hey, sorry for the troubles. At least you have your car out and about. That's a plus. up Mine will finally be coming out this spring after a 6 year lay up. Not as bad as Brad h,s 10 year lay up or so. coffee


Most guys would have quit or burned it to the
ground... I'm just to stupid to quit.. my cheapo
build sure wasnt a cheapo in the end
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