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There were more 67 Hemi Satellites than people are currently aware of. I don't want to post numbers until I have a firm number, for conversation purposes there are less than 10 known total, somewhere around 5-6 cars.

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That's basicly what he was saying, four 4-speed and one or two automatic cars.

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There is a 67 BelvedereII 4 speed around here. It is still actively raced. It was turned into a race car not too long ago. I remember seeing the chassis getting certified at a points meet I was at in the 90's. No doubt it is legit. I think 1 of 2 w/ gearbox comes to mind?

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Another confusing aspect to all of this is that the Street Hemi 67 Belvedere II cars (RH23J7) often get confused with the Race Hemi 67 Belvedere II cars (RO23J7). Are you sure it's not a Race car you saw? Do you have a photo of the VIN#?

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There is a 67 BelvedereII 4 speed around here. It is still actively raced. It was turned into a race car not too long ago. I remember seeing the chassis getting certified at a points meet I was at in the 90's. No doubt it is legit. I think 1 of 2 w/ gearbox comes to mind?

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Another confusing aspect to all of this is that the Street Hemi 67 Belvedere II cars (RH23J7) often get confused with the Race Hemi 67 Belvedere II cars (RO23J7) . Are you sure it's not a Race car you saw? Do you have a photo of the VIN#?

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Scott,
Jim ownes the Judy Lilly car, the 4 speed one, I am the one who bought the auto one from Bill, the gentleman who worked for Team Viper.
The original owner who raced it was a gentleman by the name of Jim Issac, a super nice guy, who was very helpful with the history of this car.

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I haven't seen that picture before, but that looks like the same one, it now has a flat hood with no hood scoop. If you have any more info on it, I would be interested.

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Jlemon,

If you'd like I can post those and any other pics of your old car (along with your complete story)on my site? Just let me know.

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There is a 67 BelvedereII 4 speed around here. It is still actively raced. It was turned into a race car not too long ago. I remember seeing the chassis getting certified at a points meet I was at in the 90's. No doubt it is legit. I think 1 of 2 w/ gearbox comes to mind?

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Another confusing aspect to all of this is that the Street Hemi 67 Belvedere II cars (RH23J7) often get confused with the Race Hemi 67 Belvedere II cars (RO23J7) . Are you sure it's not a Race car you saw? Do you have a photo of the VIN#?

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I think that statement confuses people ever more.

The 1967 WO and RO cars were NOT race Hemis but rather street Hemis with bigger carbs. Chrysler's intent with those cars was to create a package car that potential buyers could better relate to with what they could go to the dealership and buy to drive on the street. These were the package cars that had the least modifications to them than any other package car vs. the street cars avaialble to the regular buyer.

The intent was for these cars to be raced in Stock Eliminator class but for some reason they were moved to Super Stock (probably because of the "cheater" carbs) where they were not at all competitive.

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'67 RO and WO cars came with Street Hemi carbs. The factory data sheet that was printed before the cars were made stated 4139 & 4140 '66 carbs, but most likely all came with 4139 & 4343 '67 carbs. Don't go by Galens white book, it list info from the data sheet, not what has been found on '67 SS cars.
The 4345 & 4346 'cheater' carbs were for just what they were called, for cheating or match racing. They are not class legal.
The '67 Super Stock cars were never built for Stock, only Super Stock. They will not fit into Stock. Like the 426/425hp '64 aluminum Max Wedge cars, they fit below the minimum lbs/HP break for A/Stock.
The only Super Stock package Mopar made for Stock was the '66 D-Darts.
The '67 SS cars were not competetive because they ran in the same class as the '64, '65 and '68 Race Hemi cars, SS/B and SS/BA. It was a few years later when NHRA changed the weight breaks that put the '67s in SS/D, the '65 in SS/C, the '64 in SS/B and the '68 in SS/A.

I've seen two '67 Belvedere II Hemi cars. The green one Scott owned and the blue one from the Atlanta GA area.

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They all came with regular old 66/67 Street Hemi carbs, in fact the "Cheater" carbs weren't even manufactured or available until after the run or RO/WO cars was finished.


*The blue 67 Hemi 4 speed BelvedereII car from Atlanta belonged to Steve Simmons

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Strange seeing this post, because in Wichita Kansas, (I do not remember if it was I or II), but in 1975 a kid bought a silver 67 belvedere with a hemi engine that had been blown, we took it over to my place and he bought a 318 from me and we installed it into the car. I moved to Texas shortly after that and lost touch with him and his car. But possibly someone in Wichita knows about the silver 67 with the HEMI badges and vin that had a 318 in it? If not, maybe they still have a silver 67 with a 318 in it not realizing that the car is an actual HEMI car and not just dressed up with fake badges.
Regards,

doc

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