Re: Preferneces on cage design?
[Re: sgcuda]
#1987073
01/09/16 07:31 PM
01/09/16 07:31 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina
sgcuda
OP
master
|
OP
master
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,243
Charlotte, North Carolina
|
Rehooked up my Tig setup. Hooked up the Argon tank and purple tip electrodes. HEY, IT WORKS!!! The problems were probably 95% me, but I'm welding! Well, sort of. Started with some exhaust tubing. Looked better from the inside of the tubing than the outside. Figured out how to scratch start with lower amperage. Moved on to some 1/8" flat stock I had laying around. 3 hours later, I could actually say, I was laying a bead. I finally was using more filler rod than electrodes, was able to stop getting the tip all balled up, and could recognize a weld. One thing I have figured out, this is definitely a game of patience. Now I know why everyone I have seen Tig welding is sitting down in a chair. My back is killing me from leaning over at the table. All I can say is this is really cool and thanks to everyone here for guiding me through this process. P.S. No, this doesn't mean I'm welding my own cage tomorrow. But I feel really confident in being able to in the near future.
[image][/image]
|
|
|
Re: Preferneces on cage design?
[Re: sgcuda]
#1987178
01/09/16 09:56 PM
01/09/16 09:56 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
Master
|
Master
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
|
Cool... glad your getting a handle on it.. your gonna have to learn to get comfortable when your welding.. thats very important
|
|
|
Re: Preferneces on cage design?
[Re: sgcuda]
#1987193
01/09/16 10:30 PM
01/09/16 10:30 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina
sgcuda
OP
master
|
OP
master
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,243
Charlotte, North Carolina
|
"Learn to get comfortable". That's a new one. I don't think I've ever been comfortable my whole life. But I know what you mean. I can see why it's a much slower, but more accurate method of welding. Patience will be my new best friend.
[image][/image]
|
|
|
Re: Preferneces on cage design?
[Re: sgcuda]
#1987487
01/10/16 12:56 PM
01/10/16 12:56 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina
sgcuda
OP
master
|
OP
master
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,243
Charlotte, North Carolina
|
Bucheye; Yeah, I'm already signed up on Jody's website. Lot's of great info and video's. I got into the habit of mig welding without gloves. Trying to tig weld in gloves is like wearing those balloon boxing gloves for kids. Having trouble being steady, feeding filler rod, but will get there. Lots to learn very quickly. Need to back down on heat range, now that I can strike an arc fairly quick, and learn how to brogress the torch so the metal doesn't overheat. Thinking I might have gone too small on my filler rod, gets used up awful quick, doesn't leave too much of a bead.
[image][/image]
|
|
|
Re: Preferneces on cage design?
[Re: sgcuda]
#1987573
01/10/16 02:53 PM
01/10/16 02:53 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 22,821 Bitopia
jcc
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
|
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 22,821
Bitopia
|
"Trying to tig weld in gloves is like wearing those balloon boxing gloves for kids. " You do understand the amount, intensity, and proximity of the UV given off in the TIG process, correct? Tigging without gloves is for anybody who smokes, drinks heavily, doesn't wear a seat belt/helmet, and doesn't think they will live past 50. Get the right gloves and you will be fine. One set for alum, one for steel.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
|
|
|
Re: Preferences on cage design?
[Re: sgcuda]
#1987627
01/10/16 03:58 PM
01/10/16 03:58 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 8,928 Ontario, Canada
Stanton
Don't question me!
|
Don't question me!
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 8,928
Ontario, Canada
|
One set for alum, one for steel. Haven't heard of that. What's the reason?
|
|
|
Re: Preferneces on cage design?
[Re: Stanton]
#1987702
01/10/16 05:24 PM
01/10/16 05:24 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina
sgcuda
OP
master
|
OP
master
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,243
Charlotte, North Carolina
|
You definitely want to be covered up when welding - especially tig !!! There are thin leather gloves made for tig welding and you want a tight fit so you can feel and feed the filler rod.
I did not know that. Thanks. Will look into it. Have only purchased the bulky ones for Mig. No one ever mentioned anything else.
[image][/image]
|
|
|
Re: Preferences on cage design?
[Re: sgcuda]
#1987714
01/10/16 05:35 PM
01/10/16 05:35 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina
sgcuda
OP
master
|
OP
master
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,243
Charlotte, North Carolina
|
Pictures are backwards. Second set is my first welds, along with the one on the hood. Can you tell anything from this crosscut of my last weld?
Last edited by sgcuda; 01/10/16 05:37 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Preferences on cage design?
[Re: sgcuda]
#1987751
01/10/16 06:08 PM
01/10/16 06:08 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
Master
|
Master
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
|
I can see part of the issue is your not seeing the weld right.. you should never have a gap/jump in the bead.. change the setting on your helmet so you can see better... if you cant see you cant weld... if you wear glasses you might want a cheater lens(like a 2.0 or 2.5).. your adding too much filler.. you can cool down in areas.. it will take a bit more time... calm down.. its not a race.. I use to do the same thing.. I use to try to weld fast.. it doesnt make a nice weld bead EDIT also your hand looks like its getting hot.. your trying to move quicker.. nice gloves.. if needed put a block of wood under your torch hand
Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 01/10/16 06:13 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Preferences on cage design?
[Re: sgcuda]
#1987823
01/10/16 07:21 PM
01/10/16 07:21 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina
sgcuda
OP
master
|
OP
master
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,243
Charlotte, North Carolina
|
Mr P: The gap is due to me forgetting about the magnet behind the metal. I forgot to remove it after I tacked the metal upright (you need to see how weird the arc gets when close to a magnet). Have to look into a "Cheater Lens" for my helmet. Took a while to adjust it properly. Even that takes different settings from mig. And definitely better gloves. I thought I wasn't adding enough filler rod. Like mig, I found that the longer the run, the hotter the metal gets. Yes, I did speed up to try to get in front of the excess heat. I guess, this is where a foot pedal comes in handy. Will have to learn to stop at times. Torch never really got hot on me (I have to admit, I wasn't wearing a glove on my torch hand). I am pushing at about a 45° angle. Is that right? Tig welding seems more like soldering or brazing/gas welding. Technique and patience.
[image][/image]
|
|
|
Re: Preferences on cage design?
[Re: sgcuda]
#1987836
01/10/16 07:39 PM
01/10/16 07:39 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
Master
|
Master
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
|
I prefer a pull at about 45*.. that way I'm always seeing my weld puddle and the amount I'm adding.. but thats me.. also I'm left handed so to many I weld(or do most things)backwards.. when working in corners I will pull the electrode out a bit more so I can see better.. you have plenty of gas in the corner to protect the weld.. you have to remember.. dab... dab.. dab with the rod.. it doesnt take a lot of filler with tig
|
|
|
Re: Preferences on cage design?
[Re: sgcuda]
#1987872
01/10/16 08:12 PM
01/10/16 08:12 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina
sgcuda
OP
master
|
OP
master
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,243
Charlotte, North Carolina
|
Yeah, I'm watching closely. I have the torch forward lean at 45 with my right hand, moving left. Using the #6 cup, I noticed I get a bit of wind from the gas. Is it ok to lower the flow rate? My manual wants 20 cfm, but I'm running slightly under, 18 or 19. Seems to be blowing on the weld. Keeps the tungsten clean, though.
[image][/image]
|
|
|
|
|