Re: Trick Flow heads
[Re: AndyF]
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Thanks Andy for the answer . Would you consider trying a solid ft cam ? I know they give up some power but as these are not a "race" head would this not help the majority of users of this type of head . I know i might be a Luddite but i am happy to use a cost effective ft cam
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Thanks Andy for the answer . Would you consider trying a solid ft cam ? I know they give up some power but as these are not a "race" head would this not help the majority of users of this type of head . I know i might be a Luddite but i am happy to use a cost effective ft cam
Tex I found that flat tappet cams were just too expensive for me to use so I switched to roller cams for my dyno engines. I'm already on the third cam in this engine so that would be a lot of lifters if I was using a flat tappet. Plus if you eat a lifter the entire engine needs to be rebuilt which is a couple of weeks of downtime as well as $2000 in parts. I agree that a flat tappet setup is less money for a "one and done" street engine, but I can't afford to do engine R&D with a flat tappet cam.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Thanks Andy , yes I do understand for R&D a roller is simpler . Thanks again for your input .
Tex
New best ET 10.259@129.65 . New best MPH 130.94 Finally fitted a solid cam, stepped it up a bit more 3690lbs through the mufflers New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm Power by Tex's Automotive
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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has it been determined what head studs or kit is going to be used with these heads. TF has a stud kit listed on their website. The TF kit wasn't available when I built my engine so I made my own stud kit using ARP parts. Thank's Andy, I had seen a TF number but didn't know how it corelated with ARP's number's, I will check it out.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Short Rockers studs ARP-AJ2500-1B Longer head bolts if you already have a stock length 145-3606 ARP Hex head bolt kit and just want to buy the ten longer bolts instead of a complete 145-3609 kit are ARP-HAP4500-5 Thank you! From Page 7 of the thread: Complete Head Bolt kit is ARP 145-3609...if opted for over studs. I am going with stud's and as far as I can tell it is 145-4206 kit w/12pt nut's, if you want stud's w/hex nut's it is 145-4006.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Andy, did you check to see if any aluminum valley covers work or are close enough to modify to work with the TF heads?
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Andy, did you check to see if any aluminum valley covers work or are close enough to modify to work with the TF heads? No I didn't. I use a bathtub type valley pan when running std port heads.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Andy, did you check to see if any aluminum valley covers work or are close enough to modify to work with the TF heads? No I didn't. I use a bathtub type valley pan when running std port heads. Do you ever have to "port" the bathtub valley pans? Mine had a little overhang on the outside edges of the ports on my CNC ported stealths.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Well it is getting close to that with these TF heads. I'm considering making my own valley plate so I can just run paper gaskets between the intake and the head. I haven't quite figured out how to do it yet so I'll stare at it some more.
It is possible that the bathtub is costing me some power. There is a slight bit of overhang in a few areas but it isn't much. I opened mine up a bit with the dremel.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Well it is getting close to that with these TF heads. I'm considering making my own valley plate so I can just run paper gaskets between the intake and the head. I haven't quite figured out how to do it yet so I'll stare at it some more.
It is possible that the bathtub is costing me some power. There is a slight bit of overhang in a few areas but it isn't much. Andy years ago after we decided what intake we liked and were going to stick with we would weld a plate across the bottom of our big block intakes. I wish I had one left to post a picture but its not that hard.
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Well it is getting close to that with these TF heads. I'm considering making my own valley plate so I can just run paper gaskets between the intake and the head. I haven't quite figured out how to do it yet so I'll stare at it some more.
It is possible that the bathtub is costing me some power. There is a slight bit of overhang in a few areas but it isn't much. I opened mine up a bit with the dremel. Same here........
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Re: Trick Flow heads
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Well it is getting close to that with these TF heads. I'm considering making my own valley plate so I can just run paper gaskets between the intake and the head. I haven't quite figured out how to do it yet so I'll stare at it some more.
It is possible that the bathtub is costing me some power. There is a slight bit of overhang in a few areas but it isn't much. Have done this before but had a problem because I made it from thin Aluminium, with vibration it broke the seals on the block ends. So if your going to make one use about 1/4 ali.
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