Re: 1969 Dart GSS question........
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They determined the 440 with a 4-speed would be too much for the little A-Body's rear end, especially the small bolt pattern! They were not willing to change the bolt pattern and brakes at the time. I had a 68 GTS 383 4-speed car that was converted to a 440, of course all the linkages for the clutch were fine.
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Re: 1969 Dart GSS question........
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The way the GSS Darts are listed in that ad I would think they were left over 68s. They are separated with a border from the listed 1969 cars and let's not forget Mr Norm was one of the best marketing men. Knowing Norm - He just called the 69's GSS's to keep that "exclusive" 1968 feel around the cars. Truth is - he ended up selling many of the 69 440 Darts anyway as Chrysler was having trouble marketing them.
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Re: 1969 Dart GSS question........
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The way the GSS Darts are listed in that ad I would think they were left over 68s. They are separated with a border from the listed 1969 cars and let's not forget Mr Norm was one of the best marketing men. We are separated by a border but I still believe you!
The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it.
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Re: 1969 Dart GSS question........
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And like mentioned above, there were NO 4-speed 440 Magnum Darts made. I wonder why no 440 4 speeds? I owned a 383 4 speed GTS convertible back in 73. Doug Chrysler engineers figured that with the 50 or so added HP over a 383 Dart, and a guy hammering gears with a 4 speed rocket ship like these cars were, it mite result in a lot of un-necessary broken parts. The Torqueflite would be easier on things and a wiser chose. Remember these cars did have at least a 12 month, 12,000 mile warranty, that Chrysler would have pay to fix things. Plus with that huge 440 RB motor in the Darts small engine bay, plant engineers figured there was little to no room for clutch linkages and such.
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Re: 1969 Dart GSS question........
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01/10/16 01:38 PM
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Yes, here it is plus the modified bracket:
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Re: 1969 Dart GSS question........
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01/10/16 01:41 PM
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Drawing of the modifications made:
The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it.
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