Re: Big block roller lifters. ..offset or not
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I've used the offset solid roller in the last three high end motors I've built, World block RB B1 with T&D, my own low deck stroker in my Cuda with the Eddy Voctor M.W. heads and the current low deck stroker with 440-1 heads and Jesel rockers ![thumbs thumbs](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/thumbs.gif) Buy the best offset rollers you can afford, straighter angles on the pushrods to the rocker arms is better than more of a angle ![thumbs thumbs](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/thumbs.gif)
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Re: Big block roller lifters. ..offset or not
[Re: earthmover]
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01/02/16 11:51 AM
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crabman173
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The offsets out there are all banded and usually need bushed lifter bores so be sure and check that before you buy--on the dyno you can see gains by straighter pushrod angles no doubt.
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Re: Big block roller lifters. ..offset or not
[Re: earthmover]
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01/02/16 12:40 PM
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Thanks guys...sgcuda or you close by South gate mall ..I think thats the right mall ..I was up that way a few weeks ago If you mean South Park mall, yes. About 15 minutes away. There's a good Chinese food place and a great Italian food place in there.
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Re: Big block roller lifters. ..offset or not
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01/03/16 04:13 PM
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A basic COMP lifter, is not a GOOD lifter..........it's a mediocre lifter at best. They DO sell a GOOD lifter, but the basic 892s are not them. Now, does every motor out there need an $800 set of lifters?........no, but if the $350 ones are not holding up and have to be replaced.......two sets of those and you have spent enough for the GOOD lifter ![iagree iagree](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/iagree.gif)
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Re: Big block roller lifters. ..offset or not
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A basic COMP lifter, is not a GOOD lifter..........it's a mediocre lifter at best. They DO sell a GOOD lifter, but the basic 892s are not them. Now, does every motor out there need an $800 set of lifters?........no, but if the $350 ones are not holding up and have to be replaced.......two sets of those and you have spent enough for the GOOD lifter At my cam spec and spring pressure it eventually failed one. That's why it got upgraded to Red Zones. Doug
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Re: Big block roller lifters. ..offset or not
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01/03/16 07:26 PM
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A basic COMP lifter, is not a GOOD lifter..........it's a mediocre lifter at best. They DO sell a GOOD lifter, but the basic 892s are not them. Now, does every motor out there need an $800 set of lifters?........no, but if the $350 ones are not holding up and have to be replaced.......two sets of those and you have spent enough for the GOOD lifter At my cam spec and spring pressure it eventually failed one. That's why it got upgraded to Red Zones. Doug What spring pressure were you running? Just curious as I recently ordered a set of 892's. EDIT...nevermind, I see you listed that info above. Are some confusing the 829 with the 892 by chance? The 829 is about $450, but not offset while the 892's are offset and around $600 after getting link bars.
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Re: Big block roller lifters. ..offset or not
[Re: Charger453]
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01/03/16 11:11 PM
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A basic COMP lifter, is not a GOOD lifter..........it's a mediocre lifter at best. They DO sell a GOOD lifter, but the basic 892s are not them. Now, does every motor out there need an $800 set of lifters?........no, but if the $350 ones are not holding up and have to be replaced.......two sets of those and you have spent enough for the GOOD lifter At my cam spec and spring pressure it eventually failed one. That's why it got upgraded to Red Zones. Doug What spring pressure were you running? Just curious as I recently ordered a set of 892's. EDIT...nevermind, I see you listed that info above. Are some confusing the 829 with the 892 by chance? The 829 is about $450, but not offset while the 892's are offset and around $600 after getting link bars. They were offset 892's Doug
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Re: Big block roller lifters. ..offset or not
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01/04/16 01:18 PM
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A basic COMP lifter, is not a GOOD lifter..........it's a mediocre lifter at best. They DO sell a GOOD lifter, but the basic 892s are not them. Now, does every motor out there need an $800 set of lifters?........no, but if the $350 ones are not holding up and have to be replaced.......two sets of those and you have spent enough for the GOOD lifter At my cam spec and spring pressure it eventually failed one. That's why it got upgraded to Red Zones. Doug What spring pressure were you running? Just curious as I recently ordered a set of 892's. EDIT...nevermind, I see you listed that info above. Are some confusing the 829 with the 892 by chance? The 829 is about $450, but not offset while the 892's are offset and around $600 after getting link bars. FWIW, I run Comp 87019-16 in a MW Victor headed engine. The 87019s are the same as 892s but, Without pushrod oiling. I know they are not top of the crop lifters but, I'm running waaay less spring pressure than some of you guys. PAC 1243 springs. http://www.compcams.com/catalog/COMP2012/pdf/COMP_Catalog_2012_282-286.pdf
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Re: Big block roller lifters. ..offset or not
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01/04/16 02:22 PM
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I NEVER have broken an Isky Red Zone bushed lifter. In fact I had almost 1000 passes on the set in the Cuda at 1050lbs open.
There are many lifters out there. Choose the correct one for the job and all will be well. One thing MANY people neglect is maintenance. Watching or occasionally checking spring pressure and staying on top of lash. If you lash is ALWAYS moving around you likely have an issue with valvetrain harmonics and geometry.
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