Re: Challenger inner fender wells....remove?
[Re: 590 Challenger]
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09/24/16 04:19 PM
09/24/16 04:19 PM
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Dave Hall
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Love this thread! The pictures and the comments have been awesome! I have to say that that graph looks as if you are running the high hurdles! Wow! I race with a guy in Top Dragster that runs a single 4bbl. on a 5" BS Chevy and runs 6.50's at 2-3,000 ft. corrected. We find out all the time that sometimes less is more. I know that most Brad and the like combinations tune with timing. I would take some blower out of this thing and creep up on it. It is WAY too violent at the current setting and I would hate to see you or anyone get hurt. I agree with Monte, just not as angrily, that no amount of suspension tuning will make this thing go down the track at its current power setting.
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Re: Challenger inner fender wells....remove?
[Re: 590 Challenger]
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09/25/16 07:21 AM
09/25/16 07:21 AM
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Monte_Smith
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If I am seeing that graph right, when it stands the shaft speed graph straight up, it appears to be at 5800rpm. Where are you trying to leave with this thing?
Now while your tires may be bad, that tire will hold crazy power. I just watched Jamie Hancock go several .990 sixty foots on them over the weekend and run in the 3.80s
Last edited by Monte_Smith; 09/25/16 07:22 AM.
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Re: Challenger inner fender wells....remove?
[Re: Kiddart]
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09/25/16 04:24 PM
09/25/16 04:24 PM
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590 Challenger
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I watched you run at milan on sept 2nd. what rpm do you leave at?? Sounds like you are leaving around 6k?? then it shoots way up cuz you spin, not sure how you can calm that down dut it sounds scary like you are going to explode the motor. You are right, I set the two step and figured it had to be working. Brian Robbins had been helping and reading all the data and haven't been a concern of mine before. He wasn't there. Damn thing was launching at 6K all three passes. I feel like such a rock. I have to spend some time and figure out how to work that thing
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Re: Challenger inner fender wells....remove?
[Re: 590 Challenger]
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09/25/16 08:04 PM
09/25/16 08:04 PM
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Monte_Smith
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Don't take this the wrong way, but it is obvious you are VERY new to this and need a lot of help. My advice is either put slicks on the car until you get somewhat of a handle on something, or get some help. Many more attempts like that video and the motor is going to be hurt.
Radials and big power take several things to be successful. Good track, which Milan RARELY is. Very well set up car and someone involved who really knows something about racing on radials. Not sure any of those are present here
Someone above said I posted something "angrily". Don't even know what that means, it's text and as such there is no implied emotion. It's just to the point with no sugar coat. That's the way I like to hear it myself, so that's the way I put it out. That said, myself or anyone else on here could say "try this, try that" but frankly it wouldn't matter. The amount of experience on the board with radials and big power is small. The amount with radials, big power and a blower is likely ZERO. So you need to find or hire some help to get you sorted out
Last edited by Monte_Smith; 09/25/16 08:10 PM.
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Re: Challenger inner fender wells....remove?
[Re: 590 Challenger]
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09/26/16 03:49 AM
09/26/16 03:49 AM
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Monte_Smith
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Nothing wrong with leafs, they work fine when setup right. The problem is the tire. Drag Radials are great, WHEN the track is prepped for them, especially on big power. Guys go fast on radials when the track is flypaper sticky, the rest of the time is a smoke show. This past weekend at Radial Fest, with a track prepped especially for radials, they didn't even bother to attempt to run in the heat of the day when track temps were high. So to directly answer the question, YES, at your power level slicks are MUCH better on a marginal surface. Which Milan nearly always is at best.
One pass we attempted during the day, we had enough in the car to MAYBE go about a 1.25 sixty foot and it was instant tire smoke. As soon as shade got on the track and temps went down, we were right back to 1.05, 1.06 etc in sixty feet. And nothing about it is easy. You need a VERY good handle on car setup and power management
Blower, turbo, nitrous........doesn't matter. Big power with any of them is hard to manage on radials
Last edited by Monte_Smith; 09/26/16 03:51 AM.
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Re: Challenger inner fender wells....remove?
[Re: 590 Challenger]
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09/29/16 12:27 AM
09/29/16 12:27 AM
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ozymaxwedge
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All the best to you. It is an animal of a car I love it, keep it in the middle !!!
1963 Plymouth Max Wedge 1971 Barracuda
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