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Smallblock timing chain stretch help #1979524
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What timing chains are you guys running in your high horsepower smallblocks? We have taken apart three of our strokers this year to freshen up and the chains have had severe stretch! All three were true bullet roller timing chains. I know we put quality chains in, I believe they were Cloyes. Is anyone having better luck with a different brand?

Also we replaced one chain in my dads car with a Milodon gear drive. I heard switching to a gear drive costs horsepower? Is there any truth behind this? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, Mark

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Very sweet! But so is the price! Lol

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I run the KB gear drive in all of my race stuff..
I do have a chain with a tensioner in my 416 street
rod.. after the wear to get the edges of the chain
down on the rollers it seems to be working fine.. I
will find out when I see more than 500 miles on it
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Originally Posted By MGC340
Very sweet! But so is the price! Lol


that's what you get when you're a Mo-tard! .....and it's actually cheaper on Ebay! (not chevy cheap, but pocket change cheaper laugh2 )

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I think if you checked most after a bit of use you might find most will give a little.

How much stretch are you talking?

Why toss "stroker" when the majority spin less or equal rpm vs other builds?

Just asking because it seems you just stumbeled on the reason people look for other options.

But ive ran rollmaster with a tensioner on all mine that stayed under 7500 and replace as/if needed.

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Had the same problem with my BB chains went to this setup 3 seasons later their still good.
P/N are for BB but you should be able to find it in a small.
Summit part numbers
Race Billet True® Roller (9 Keyway) 9-3625TX9 _
Race Billet True® Roller (3 Keyway) 9-3625TX3 _

Here is a small block P/N CLO-9-3603X9

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Originally Posted By one bad fish
Mr. P u don't like the belt


Not really a fan of them... way too pricey and you end up
replacing the belt after time... the gear drive has been
great for years now(one engine has 15 years on the gear
drive)
EDIT
The belt drive was good for 1 thing in my opinion..
that was to help control harmonics on the engine..
I havent seen it to be worried about it but I dont
build big power.. I just turn more RPM
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Stutter boxes Kill chains
I know you did not mention having one but..if you do then chains are wearable item that needs replacement
Chain quality is not what it used to be either
soak chain in oil day or two before install--it helps

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Originally Posted By Porter67
I think if you checked most after a bit of use you might find most will give a little.

How much stretch are you talking?

Why toss "stroker" when the majority spin less or equal rpm vs other builds?

Just asking because it seems you just stumbeled on the reason people look for other options.

But ive ran rollmaster with a tensioner on all mine that stayed under 7500 and replace as/if needed.


I know Stroker doesn't have to do with the stretch on our motors just stating they were stroker motors is all. My brothers .030 360 had the same chain same stretch in it. It's enough stretch that I think a guy could take a link out to make up for the difference. 3 seasons on a chain I know is plenty. Just was curious if anyone had better luck with other pieces.

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Originally Posted By Porter67
I think if you checked most after a bit of use you might find most will give a little.

How much stretch are you talking?

Why toss "stroker" when the majority spin less or equal rpm vs other builds?

Just asking because it seems you just stumbeled on the reason people look for other options.

But ive ran rollmaster with a tensioner on all mine that stayed under 7500 and replace as/if needed.


We were looking at running a tensioner. You've had good luck running one then? Thanks, Mark

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Originally Posted By MGC340
Very sweet! But so is the price! Lol


that's what you get when you're a Mo-tard! .....and it's actually cheaper on Ebay! (not chevy cheap, but pocket change cheaper laugh2 )


It's a chebby world! 🤑

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Originally Posted By JD Dart
Had the same problem with my BB chains went to this setup 3 seasons later their still good.
P/N are for BB but you should be able to find it in a small.
Summit part numbers
Race Billet True® Roller (9 Keyway) 9-3625TX9 _
Race Billet True® Roller (3 Keyway) 9-3625TX3 _

Here is a small block P/N CLO-9-3603X9


Thanks I'll check that out👍🏻

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Originally Posted By crabman173
Stutter boxes Kill chains
I know you did not mention having one but..if you do then chains are wearable item that needs replacement
Chain quality is not what it used to be either
soak chain in oil day or two before install--it helps


No stutter boxes.

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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
I run the KB gear drive in all of my race stuff..
I do have a chain with a tensioner in my 416 street
rod.. after the wear to get the edges of the chain
down on the rollers it seems to be working fine.. I
will find out when I see more than 500 miles on it
wave


Mr P Body,

What KB gear drive are you running? I was on there website and they only list for big block applications. Did you buy your before they were discontinued?

Thanks, Mark

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