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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: dartman366] #1971603
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I bet a certain someone can whip you up one on the water jet - no problem

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: DoubleD] #1971610
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Originally Posted By DoubleD
I bet a certain someone can whip you up one on the water jet - no problem
work workmaybe even one with a access plate whistling


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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: dartman366] #1971620
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Greg(Superformance)suggested some flat alum. sheet like he did so I may go that route to get rid of the pan and keep oil out of the intake ports........


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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: Thumperdart] #1971738
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I am curious if the Hughes 1-piece cover works OK, but recall enough complaints about the 2-piece design to rule that one out.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1973397
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The scrub pattern from the RAS rocker arms looks really good for almost .700 lift.

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I was running an out of the box Victor 383 intake. Looks like there is some room for improvement with port alignment. All of the ports look like this.

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That's almost as bad as the ports on my B engine M-1 tunnel ram. No pics right now, but it's going to take filling and re-drilling the holes and/or welding/grinding the ports walls to get it lined up-Doh!. I found out the NOS was POS.

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Originally Posted By BradH
I am curious if the Hughes 1-piece cover works OK, but recall enough complaints about the 2-piece design to rule that one out.


After reading about the coating not allowing the silicone to seal, I may try the 2-piece since it seems easier to get ALL surfaces tight and sealed unlike a 1-piece deal but not sold on that yet.......


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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: AndyF] #1973431
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Originally Posted By AndyF
I was running an out of the box Victor 383 intake. Looks like there is some room for improvement with port alignment. All of the ports look like this.


The floor is lower and the roof height is the same with the TF head compared to conventional placement...really?

It may be better to leave it as a built in reversion shelf eek

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: Jerry Kathe] #1973458
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Go with a thicker gasket and slot the bolt holes
a little.. then port the top side if needed
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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: AndyF] #1973515
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Originally Posted By AndyF
I was running an out of the box Victor 383 intake. Looks like there is some room for improvement with port alignment. All of the ports look like this.
How's that same gasket look on the head,


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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1973802
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Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single time where I used those fel-pro paper gaskets and they properly lined up with all the ports on any heads. Generally, when you line up one pair of ports, the ones at the other end of the head are too far from the first pair.
When those are the gaskets that will be getting used, I cut the gasket and take a little slice out of it so I can line up each pair of ports individually.

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Did I understand him to say that the gasket in the photo "fits" the head as expected but the same gasket fits the intake as illustrated?

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1973986
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I took it that way, but was commenting that "usually"(well, never in my case) does that gasket properly line up with all 4 ports on the head.
They aren't as far off as the ports are in the pic of the manifold though.


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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1974013
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I'll post a picture of the gasket on the head. It looks to me like the head was ported to the gasket but I'll double check. It would make some sense for TF to port their heads to the FelPro gasket even if the FelPro gasket doesn't fit stock heads perfectly.

I don't have a good picture that shows all four ports but this picture shows one pair. The other pair look roughly the same.

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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1974103
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single time where I used those fel-pro paper gaskets and they properly lined up with all the ports on any heads. Generally, when you line up one pair of ports, the ones at the other end of the head are too far from the first pair.

Yep, the Fel-Pros are spaced too wide, the Indy SR gaskets are spot-on, and the Indy MW gaskets are too narrow.

For some odd reason, when Hughes CNC'd my "standard port" Victors, it looks like they spaced the ports approx. the same as Indy does their MW gaskets, so I have to cut "good" standard-port gaskets to fit that narrower port spacing. Hughes' own house-brand gaskets don't fit, either.

You'd think something this basic wouldn't be a freakin' problem, given everything else that goes into designing a head or a CNC program. This type of inconsistency plays He11 w/ intake manifold port alignment, too. realcrazy

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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: AndyF] #1974107
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Originally Posted By AndyF
The scrub pattern from the RAS rocker arms looks really good for almost .700 lift.

Then, IIRC, the Crane "gold" should work out pretty well, too, although their adjusting screw angle may be pretty far "out there" at .600"+ lift.

Everything else I know of is probably going to sit too far to the exhaust side and require something like a B3RE "realignment kit" to pull the sweep pattern back in.

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I think the head porters use a certain gasket as a template but they might not tell anyone which gasket they used.

My EZ heads from MCH didn't line up with any MW gasket until I tried a Mr Gasket #302. Perfect alignment. So I'm guessing that MCH used the #302 gasket as their template.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: AndyF] #1974192
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tf posted dyno numbers,but did they show the motor combination anywhere?

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Originally Posted By sam64
tf posted dyno numbers,but did they show the motor combination anywhere?


A little bit of info in their SEMA vid on the build

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