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My bracket hemi build
#1970437
12/15/15 08:47 PM
12/15/15 08:47 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,266
Renton Washington
Triple Threat
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Renton Washington
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I blew up my small block at the end of the season so I'm moving to the Gen 3 platform.
I'm a bracket racer who makes 200 runs a season on average. My small block made 625 hp or so, and my goal is to make closer to 700 with this Hemi.
This is what I have gathered so far. Still waiting on the pistons to show up but everything else is in my or the machine shop's possession.
2004 5.7 .010 over bore
ARP Main and Head Studs
4.050 SCAT Crank
Scat H beam rods
Custom JE pistons, 15cc Dome, shooting for 13:1
Cometic head gaskets
Apache heads with some porting
Custom Camshaft 258/264@.050, .620/.630
Ritter intake, Dominator Flange, short version
Stock lifters and valvetrain
My trusty E85 1050 Dominator by AJ Casini
MSD 6 hemi with the 06+ style coils to fire it.
727, 8" Ultimate converter that flashed to 5800 behind my 450" small block.
4.10 rear gear for now.
My goal is to run 10.0's at 3350#. If its faster that's cool too. Will it happen, I dunno, but we're gonna find out. If it doesn't, I have shoe polish.
Still need to acquire headers, oil pan and other little items as we begin assembly.
For better or worse I'll share what I learn as we go and how it runs. Shout out to Ray (sixpackgut) and Rod (Just-A-Dart) for their help selecting pieces for this deal and sharing what they have learned.
-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
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Re: My bracket hemi build
[Re: Triple Threat]
#1970505
12/15/15 10:09 PM
12/15/15 10:09 PM
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Joined: Feb 2011
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Glendora Ca.
Just-a-dart
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Glendora Ca.
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Please keep us in the loop, I am looking forward to hearing the details.
"Just a Bracket car dressed up like a streetcar"
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Re: My bracket hemi build
[Re: Triple Threat]
#1970553
12/15/15 10:56 PM
12/15/15 10:56 PM
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Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302
Nebraska
72Swinger
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I'm thinking it would exceed your expectations. That cam and those heads will make some serious steam.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: My bracket hemi build
[Re: Triple Threat]
#1970603
12/16/15 12:10 AM
12/16/15 12:10 AM
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Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 198
Stinnett, Tx
rumblebee4232
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I blew up my small block at the end of the season so I'm moving to the Gen 3 platform.
I'm a bracket racer who makes 200 runs a season on average. My small block made 625 hp or so, and my goal is to make closer to 700 with this Hemi.
This is what I have gathered so far. Still waiting on the pistons to show up but everything else is in my or the machine shop's possession.
2004 5.7 .010 over bore
ARP Main and Head Studs
4.050 SCAT Crank
Scat H beam rods
Custom JE pistons, 15cc Dome, shooting for 13:1
Cometic head gaskets
Apache heads with some porting
Custom Camshaft 258/264@.050, .620/.630
Ritter intake, Dominator Flange, short version
Stock lifters and valvetrain
My trusty E85 1050 Dominator by AJ Casini
MSD 6 hemi with the 06+ style coils to fire it.
727, 8" Ultimate converter that flashed to 5800 behind my 450" small block.
4.10 rear gear for now.
My goal is to run 10.0's at 3350#. If its faster that's cool too. Will it happen, I dunno, but we're gonna find out. If it doesn't, I have shoe polish.
Still need to acquire headers, oil pan and other little items as we begin assembly.
For better or worse I'll share what I learn as we go and how it runs. Shout out to Ray (sixpackgut) and Rod (Just-A-Dart) for their help selecting pieces for this deal and sharing what they have learned.
My build is pretty close to yours-- 2005 5.7 block 0.020 over molnar 4.05 crank molnar H beam rods 6.125 long Diamond pistons 3.937 bore 14.6cc dome Apache heads hughs 5422 intake holley dominator MSD6 hemi ignition with harness's for both the 05 and down coils and the 06 and up coils (Also have the Holley Dominator FI system) 224/228@0.050 0.547 /0.550 Th350 5600 converter Ford 9 inch 4.10 gears weight should be about 2300lbs ARP head and main studs not sure of the header brand because I bought them off craigslist modified the oilpan myself for increased capacity ( have not measured total capacity yet)
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Re: My bracket hemi build
[Re: Triple Threat]
#1970788
12/16/15 12:26 PM
12/16/15 12:26 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,266
Renton Washington
Triple Threat
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Renton Washington
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That is a very similar build other than the cam. What are you putting it in that weighs 2300? Roadster?
-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
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Re: My bracket hemi build
[Re: Triple Threat]
#1970913
12/16/15 03:57 PM
12/16/15 03:57 PM
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Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 9,225
Charleston
sixpackgut
Drag Week Mod Champion
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Drag Week Mod Champion
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Charleston
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it will be really great when there is a bunch of us to compare notes with. For a while now, its only been Me, Steff and Rick that have been able to ask each other questions about things and I have learned a lot from those guys so it should only help the more people we get to get info from.
The one day when me and Steff were at the track together, When Steff started his car, me and my friends all looked at each other and said the same thing. They sounded exactly alike.
Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135
Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram
performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs
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Re: My bracket hemi build
[Re: Triple Threat]
#1971119
12/16/15 09:44 PM
12/16/15 09:44 PM
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Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,513
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula
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I blew up my small block at the end of the season so I'm moving to the Gen 3 platform.
I'm a bracket racer who makes 200 runs a season on average. My small block made 625 hp or so, and my goal is to make closer to 700 with this Hemi.
This is what I have gathered so far. Still waiting on the pistons to show up but everything else is in my or the machine shop's possession.
2004 5.7 .010 over bore
ARP Main and Head Studs
4.050 SCAT Crank
Scat H beam rods
Custom JE pistons, 15cc Dome, shooting for 13:1
Cometic head gaskets
Apache heads with some porting
Custom Camshaft 258/264@.050, .620/.630
Ritter intake, Dominator Flange, short version
Stock lifters and valvetrain
My trusty E85 1050 Dominator by AJ Casini
MSD 6 hemi with the 06+ style coils to fire it.
727, 8" Ultimate converter that flashed to 5800 behind my 450" small block.
4.10 rear gear for now.
My goal is to run 10.0's at 3350#. If its faster that's cool too. Will it happen, I dunno, but we're gonna find out. If it doesn't, I have shoe polish.
Still need to acquire headers, oil pan and other little items as we begin assembly.
For better or worse I'll share what I learn as we go and how it runs. Shout out to Ray (sixpackgut) and Rod (Just-A-Dart) for their help selecting pieces for this deal and sharing what they have learned.
Tall order for sure, but I think if you open the heads, at that compression, you might be there. I have been contemplating one, but I see so few bracket car builds. I averaged a little over 100 passes on my car, and +50 in other peoples cars this year....We had a bunch of rain outs, so it was a light season...I will follow the build, hope you include pics...
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Re: My bracket hemi build
[Re: Dragula]
#1971237
12/17/15 12:31 AM
12/17/15 12:31 AM
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Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 9,225
Charleston
sixpackgut
Drag Week Mod Champion
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Drag Week Mod Champion
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 9,225
Charleston
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I blew up my small block at the end of the season so I'm moving to the Gen 3 platform.
I'm a bracket racer who makes 200 runs a season on average. My small block made 625 hp or so, and my goal is to make closer to 700 with this Hemi.
This is what I have gathered so far. Still waiting on the pistons to show up but everything else is in my or the machine shop's possession.
2004 5.7 .010 over bore
ARP Main and Head Studs
4.050 SCAT Crank
Scat H beam rods
Custom JE pistons, 15cc Dome, shooting for 13:1
Cometic head gaskets
Apache heads with some porting
Custom Camshaft 258/264@.050, .620/.630
Ritter intake, Dominator Flange, short version
Stock lifters and valvetrain
My trusty E85 1050 Dominator by AJ Casini
MSD 6 hemi with the 06+ style coils to fire it.
727, 8" Ultimate converter that flashed to 5800 behind my 450" small block.
4.10 rear gear for now.
My goal is to run 10.0's at 3350#. If its faster that's cool too. Will it happen, I dunno, but we're gonna find out. If it doesn't, I have shoe polish.
Still need to acquire headers, oil pan and other little items as we begin assembly.
For better or worse I'll share what I learn as we go and how it runs. Shout out to Ray (sixpackgut) and Rod (Just-A-Dart) for their help selecting pieces for this deal and sharing what they have learned.
Tall order for sure, but I think if you open the heads, at that compression, you might be there. I have been contemplating one, but I see so few bracket car builds. I averaged a little over 100 passes on my car, and +50 in other peoples cars this year....We had a bunch of rain outs, so it was a light season...I will follow the build, hope you include pics... His heads flow 312 @.4, 355 @.6
Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135
Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram
performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs
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Re: My bracket hemi build
[Re: Triple Threat]
#1971672
12/17/15 08:15 PM
12/17/15 08:15 PM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,830
houston texas
gremlinsteve
top fuel
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Posts: 1,830
houston texas
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Great build
Hope it all works out for you
Let me know if I can help in any ways
if You Like Gremlinsteve. Gremlinsteve Likes You.
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Re: My bracket hemi build
[Re: Triple Threat]
#1971827
12/17/15 11:30 PM
12/17/15 11:30 PM
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Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 198
Stinnett, Tx
rumblebee4232
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That is a very similar build other than the cam. What are you putting it in that weighs 2300? Roadster? Chriss Alston Avenger tube chassis Skinned with a 90 Dodge Daytona body(outer skin only) fibreglass front fenders and nose, 2 gallon fuel cell, lexan windows..
Last edited by rumblebee4232; 12/17/15 11:31 PM.
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Re: My bracket hemi build
[Re: Triple Threat]
#1971860
12/18/15 12:06 AM
12/18/15 12:06 AM
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Posts: 8,110
Tulsa OK
Bad340fish
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Tulsa OK
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Looks like it will be a fun build Dustin.
68 Barracuda Formula S 340
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Re: My bracket hemi build
[Re: W5DART66]
#1972816
12/19/15 05:24 PM
12/19/15 05:24 PM
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Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 9,225
Charleston
sixpackgut
Drag Week Mod Champion
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Drag Week Mod Champion
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Posts: 9,225
Charleston
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Looks like it will be good bracket race engine.
But I think HP with the parts in that list is more like 600-640HP
That intake needs lots of work. (A blend job will not fix it. )
Can you share any pictures of the ports and chamber after porting?
Chambers not touched
Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135
Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram
performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs
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