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Re: Was up at Ray Barton racing engines....NEW DRAGPACK HELLCAT! [Re: SSDAcuda] #1962266
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The only thing that resemblance of a hellcat is its blown and a hemi. Not a hellcat 6.2 hemi


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Re: Was up at Ray Barton racing engines....NEW DRAGPACK HELLCAT! [Re: Blusmbl] #1963894
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Originally Posted By Blusmbl
Barton works on Chevies too?


And some Cobra Jet Fords too.

Re: Was up at Ray Barton racing engines....NEW DRAGPACK HELLCAT! [Re: SSDAcuda] #1965073
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Originally Posted By SSDAcuda
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I would add this friendly observation. I think the Barton's have christened themselves as a Mopar engine building shop. One just has to look at their web page: http://raybarton.com/ and look under "engines" and "customers" to substantiate it. I am not at all arguing that they aren't excellent engine builders for other brands, but I think it is safe to say that their specialty is Mopar. Personally, I believe they are the preeminent Mopar race engine shop in the country. There are none better with the II and III generation Hemis.


This picture kind of sums it up....

You'll see the 2nd generation "new" Barton in the foreground piloting the copo. Now look at the back quarter, talking to Larry Perkins. haha

Ray has Hemi in his blood. He has built more Hemis than most of us will see in a lifetime. Helped design blocks and engineer critical parts that push the horsepower levels of Super Stock Hemis to numbers that were competitive for a pro stock car not that long ago.... Ray has built the Image that Ray Barton Racing Engines is. And it was focused around mopar.

David's passion has turned to tuning and building of the late model fuel injected cars. His record in the factory shootout series and Stock and Super Stock speaks for itself. He does it all from the building to tuning to driving. If you see David at an NHRA race, he is usually running from trailer to trailer helping customers while racing himself.

That pretty much sums up where Ray Barton Racing Engines came from and where they're going.... I am just fortunate to be close enough to frequent the shop on a regular basis. On Saturday I was greeted with an original '68 Hemi Dart in a trailer for Rays assessment on a restoration build, and when entering the back of the shop the pictures you see here. Not too many shops have a spin-tron, first rate porting, cnc and dyno and full fabrication capabilities all under one roof.

Me personally, I love all the Gen 2 innovations, parts, history and everything else about the shop. Ray is about as sharp as it gets, and chances are if you have a problem with your mopar, he has seen it and fixed it at one point or another. BUT- I have to say all this new technology is wearing on me. Very Interesting! You have to appreciate the efforts the factories are putting out and the technology there! 1050hp from the factory as a stocker! eek Cant wait to see what numbers David, Ray and the crew get out of it after working there magic! Stay tuned!! wrench beer






Next time your at Rays Shop ask him if he knows Don MacCallum?
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Re: Was up at Ray Barton racing engines....NEW DRAGPACK HELLCAT! [Re: MattW] #1965865
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Originally Posted By MattW




Next time your at Rays Shop ask him if he knows Don MacCallum?
Matt


Dons name has come up more than once in Rays stories. Ray did his engine when he was up north and thats about all I will say on that matter.


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And a week later the Blown Dragpak is on the dyno!


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Im gonna wager it has at least 100hp over the Bowtie.


Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Was up at Ray Barton racing engines....NEW DRAGPACK HELLCAT! [Re: SSDAcuda] #1966314
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Just to let everyone know that "NHRA" , has refactored the ,HP. On Drap-Pac cars anr the Ford Mustangs to!!!!!! The Chevy COPO guys are not Winning enough!!!! There Whinnig!!! So again Chevy gets its way!!!! Good luck to all!!!

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From the factory 1000hp. After some minor tuning - 1113 hp!! eek

Video on the dyno:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiRwXwWvytE


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Originally Posted By SSDAcuda


And a week later the Blown Dragpak is on the dyno!




If my 605 Hemi does not work out....I am going to one of those I think...


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
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Originally Posted By Dragula


If my 605 Hemi does not work out....I am going to one of those I think...


The sad part is that the Blown Dragpack Hemi engine will not be available to purchase seperately until a later date. Ma Mopar is saying that until all the dragpaks are built, they will not offer the engine or parts for sale. fan


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Re: Was up at Ray Barton racing engines....NEW DRAGPACK HELLCAT! [Re: SSDAcuda] #1983842
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Originally Posted By SSDAcuda
Originally Posted By Dragula


If my 605 Hemi does not work out....I am going to one of those I think...


The sad part is that the Blown Dragpack Hemi engine will not be available to purchase seperately until a later date. Ma Mopar is saying that until all the dragpaks are built, they will not offer the engine or parts for sale. fan


I can pick up and rebuild a 6.1 into a 426 and swap a blower on...Doesn't have to be an over priced Drag Pack....Wasn't the sticker $21k? I would also want XFI on it....

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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
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A 426 Gen III w a blower is a monster. One thing about stroking a Gen III, they don't have a lot of deck height, so when you go over a 4" crank it apparently really shortens piston/bore life due to a super short piston.

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Originally Posted By Dragula
Originally Posted By SSDAcuda


And a week later the Blown Dragpak is on the dyno!




If my 605 Hemi does not work out....I am going to one of those I think...


I'm sure the 605 Hemi will be just fine...

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Originally Posted By 572_HEMI_Cuda
Originally Posted By Dragula
Originally Posted By SSDAcuda


And a week later the Blown Dragpak is on the dyno!




If my 605 Hemi does not work out....I am going to one of those I think...


I'm sure the 605 Hemi will be just fine...


I am waiting to get the block back and see how some of the fixes it needed end up...Our shop could not do them and we farmed it out.

And now after talking with Bullet cams today, if I get the quote we discussed, I am feeling a lot better about the longevity on the valve train and not having to go to RBRE rockers to make it live. I would like a set, but $$$$


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
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