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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1956168
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I ordered up a set last week with an ETA of 12/28 but got notice they'll be here Tuesday so I'm assuming someone returned theirs from the first batch. Would it be worthwhile to wait for the second batch with the recesses filled? I'm not in a huge rush if they're really going to be here in January but we all know how "ETA" dates work.

Excited to see how these work out for you Andy!

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1956356
11/23/15 10:24 AM
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Looking at Summit Racing website; TF Heads show 10% off today 11/23/15 up


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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1956786
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They will be 10% off until 11/30 I think at Summit online or in store.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1957344
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Little square hole is gone on the set that arrived today.


Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1957468
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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1957551
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So apart from valve shrouding, has anyone seen any reason no to put these on a 4.280 bore? if the lift is kept under .600 it should be all good?

I mentioned this in a prev thread and the guy from trickflow came back with it would fit, but they just speced the larger bore size because of the 2.19 inlet valve... no other tech explanation other than "because"...

them being 10% off at summit atm is a deal clincher for me, will have to see if i can generate the coin b4 they go off special though, 5 days argh (and if they have any left!)

Edit: ahh (expletive) it, Im going to blow something up in the trans or the diff if i do use these guys, too much power, too much compression, too much stall needed. Im going to stick with the sidewinders, 500 ish hp is enough for my build/budget.

Still would like some opinions on the idea though smile

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1957600
11/25/15 11:28 AM
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Is the Chamber to small to use on a older build with l2266 pistons 30 over 440? I had the deck cut .040, IIRC they were down the hole .060 or .070. It has ported and shaved 452's on it right now, cam is a PAW 224 grind.

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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: Alchemi] #1957603
11/25/15 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted By Alchemi
So apart from valve shrouding, has anyone seen any reason no to put these on a 4.280 bore? if the lift is kept under .600 it should be all good?

I mentioned this in a prev thread and the guy from trickflow came back with it would fit, but they just speced the larger bore size because of the 2.19 inlet valve... no other tech explanation other than "because"...

them being 10% off at summit atm is a deal clincher for me, will have to see if i can generate the coin b4 they go off special though, 5 days argh (and if they have any left!)

Edit: ahh (expletive) it, Im going to blow something up in the trans or the diff if i do use these guys, too much power, too much compression, too much stall needed. Im going to stick with the sidewinders, 500 ish hp is enough for my build/budget.

Still would like some opinions on the idea though smile


I put them on a 4.250 bore with a .039" gasket and the intake valve hit the cylinder wall at .770" lift. On the exhaust valve the retainer hit the seal at .850" and hadn't struck the cylinder wall.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: LaRoy Engines] #1957753
11/25/15 04:46 PM
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That is one of the reason, 4.250 bore size with the 1.880 exhaust valve sizes, that Mopar notched the cylinder walls on all the Max Wedge blocks with those small lift(.525 max lift on the stage 3 425 HP motors) stock cams. Do those T.F. heads come with the 2.19 size intakes valves stock or is that a option or did you put thoes in your heads? confused


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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: AndyF] #1957784
11/25/15 05:33 PM
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We ended up honing the valve guides slightly to provide "racing clearance". The valve clearance was "pass car" tight right out of the box. Everything else looked good. We swapped out the Ti retainers for some steel retainers. The steel retainers are only $45 and they won't get chewed up by the damper. I'm pretty sure the engine will still spin 7000 rpm with the steel retainers so no need for the lighter weight components. If we run into a float issue then I'll install some tool steel retainers.

Engine is ready to fire up. Should have some data after T-day. Baro is 30.15 and outside temp is 45 degrees so we're looking at some good air density numbers for dyno testing. Uncorrected numbers should be really nice.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1957997
11/26/15 12:00 AM
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Couldn't resist the Summit Racing 10% discount and ordered a set of the "street" version Monday (TFS-61617801-C00). Estimated ship 1/2/16. Great to see TF acted on the feedback from this thread and thanks for all the guidance/info sharing too. It's made parts ordering much much easier (shaft studs, head bolts, etc.).

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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: AndyF] #1958115
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Originally Posted By AndyF
We ended up honing the valve guides slightly to provide "racing clearance". The valve clearance was "pass car" tight right out of the box. Everything else looked good. We swapped out the Ti retainers for some steel retainers. The steel retainers are only $45 and they won't get chewed up by the damper. I'm pretty sure the engine will still spin 7000 rpm with the steel retainers so no need for the lighter weight components. If we run into a float issue then I'll install some tool steel retainers.

Engine is ready to fire up. Should have some data after T-day. Baro is 30.15 and outside temp is 45 degrees so we're looking at some good air density numbers for dyno testing. Uncorrected numbers should be really nice.


Just in case I missed it what is the rest of engine combo?

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1958335
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With the heart shaped chamber,will a .140 Ross dome piston work? .014 in the hole .027 headgasket 4.350 bore.


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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: carnut68] #1958742
11/27/15 01:13 PM
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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: DLewis] #1958978
11/27/15 10:11 PM
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Nice to see a company that actually responds to consumer feedback in a timely manner. up

Any idea if TF reset the he exhaust seat cutter more inboard to address the issue Dwayne saw on the earlier set of heads?

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1959053
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Making some good power on the dyno for a 10.5 pump gas motor!

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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1959209
11/28/15 01:52 PM
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Andy weres the hoses coming off valve cover going? Thanks

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: fast68plymouth] #1959216
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In for numbers... Also interested in what their matching intake will do. Their stuff for the Chevy and Ford motors works very well, glad to see them stepping into our market.


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Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: dwayne welder] #1959221
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The hose off the valve cover goes to a blow by meter. That way we can see how well the engine seals up during the dyno pulls.

Re: Trick Flow heads [Re: daveakre] #1959223
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I'll test one of their intakes as soon as it is available. No idea when that is going to be though.

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