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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1951697
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2 adults both signed wavers and knew the risk.
Brian and Justin are physically sore but ok,so for all the arm chair experts...you did not get hurt or lose anything but getting a chance to see 2 bada$$ rides entertaining you.

Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: fishy340] #1951788
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Where di this happen? Filming for an episode or just grudge racing?

Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1951799
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Happened during filming early this morning.
Last week during filming Derek scattered his engine all over the street.
Boosted GT broke a control arm bolt and crashed his car at the track, daddy Dave totaled the nova at a no prep race.
This year has not been kind to those guys.


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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1951805
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"2 adults both signed wavers"

Attorneys wipe their asses with those. Everyone will sue everyone else.


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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: Porter67] #1951902
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Originally Posted By Porter67
Anyone who bashes street racing id hope they have never had a high speed ticket or close call for running a red light,stop sign or even had just that one drink too many and made it home or it just makes them a hypocrite.

I do hope they are ok, but anyone who races anything should know the risks they take.


Have to disagree. I've had a high speed ticket, and driven with one too many in my system, and I learned from those mistakes enough to tell other people don't risk it. Despite being a pretty conscientious driver, I've driven through red lights I didn't see and had close calls, and was thankful to live it through it and try to remind myself not to make the same mistakes. So I don't consider it hypocritical at all to say street racing is about as stupid as it comes.

Sure the racers might know the risks they are taking, but what about the driver who pulls out on the road because someone forgot to block it off? Or the pedestrian out for a late night walk that goes across a road and can't judge car distance when they go to cross because they are expecting cars to be driving 55 instead of 155? Or the spectators standing right by the road when a car looses control or grenades a part?

Yes, I know the TV show guys do their due diligence on safety and securing the area. But by not showing that part of the process and making it look unstaged, it is promoting stupidity among young naive viewers.

So yeah, no sympathy for these guys at all.


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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: polyspheric] #1951907
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Originally Posted By polyspheric
"2 adults both signed wavers"

Attorneys wipe their asses with those. Everyone will sue everyone else.


As long as the courts uphold "waivers" (aka Implied Consent Forms) you will still have racing.

When the first judge caves in and denies the "waiver", motorsports, as a whole, are done. So are many other things.

Just because you get sued don't mean a thing. Unless you WIN.

I have never heard of an Implied Consent Form being denied by a court.

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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: Michael Ecks] #1951909
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Good points, I was thinking about what I wrote while just out in the shop.

Its just one of many opinions I came up with and we all know what they say about opinions.

Really thinking more on it, dare I, its pretty messed up all the way around.

Maybe they should of never started the show in the first place with it promoting racing on "streets" but at the same time look at all the shows/movies that glorify many forms of lawlessness.

Pinks was cool, popular and pretty safe overall.

Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1951910
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I watch the show because I like the cars and the characters and everything else on tv completely sucks. They've lost 2 or 3 cars now and I know a couple of them had over 100 grand in each of them, plus the 3 guys were hospitalized. I can't believe they have the balls to go 150+ MPH with curbs, trees, telephone poles, cars, and everything else along the road. They are definitely brave and I'm glad they're all alive.


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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1951925
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Is it confirmed that the drivers are OK?

If so, great news!!!.

I can't get the show on the home tee vee, frown

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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1951932
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From Brian's FB:

Thank you to everyone for all of the texts, calls and messages to check up on me. I am little sore but nothing a few days rest won't heal. I am going to try to reply to the 100's of messages I've received. If I haven't responded yet don't think I didn't read the message. All the support is amazing. The car did it's job and kept me safe, thank you Team Z and Dave for building me a SAFE CAR. We are currently on the road heading back to Detroit. Time to re group and see what the next car will be. The entire 405 crew was very considerate and very supportive. Most importantly, I am glad that Chief and myself are going back home to our families. Love ya Chief, you are a bad ass and a STAND UP GUY. if there is anything I can do to help please let me know, amd thank you to Chiefs wife for checking on me in the middle of seeing how ur husband was doing, and to Kayla for checking on me and relaying the info to my girlfriend so she knew I was okay.

Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1951937
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I can't find Chiefs quote right now, but he's Ok. A lot more banged up and still in the hospital, but Ok.

Dennis

Edit, I found it.

""THANK YOU EVERYONE.... I'm pretty beat up right now. Just woke me up for some breathing treatments. Pulmonary contusions (bruised lungs). Crushed my L2 and L3 in my back, broken collarbone, and pretty beat up, but so thankful to be alive right now. They got me on non stop oxygen and another round of cat scans, and X-rays coming up. The surgeon doesn't believe i will need back operation anymore, but they are going to keep me in the hospital again tonight to keep an eye on the lungs, YES I WILL BE BACK! The GOFUND ME CAMPAIGNS were not created by my people or family... I have no idea about them, please KEEP YOUR MONEY. I will update everyone as i get info from the Doctors! The CAGE and safety equipment saved my life!"


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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1951938
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First and foremost hope everyone will heal up. Prayers to all. Second hate to see anyone wreck something that they've put time and money into. That being said, I cringe every time I see a race with curbs, no guard rails, or steel guard rails. You have to be nuts. You better be lucky. You better be rich. It was only a matter of time before this happened. It's only a matter of time before someone isn't going to walk away. I realize we all take a chance every time we strap into the car. I just like to up my odds.
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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1951968
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I love the show, even if they do still use the Formula 1 sound bytes...
Glad they are both goign to be ok. Sounds like this season was rather rough on the 405 guys... But that's what happens when you push envelopes.


Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: fishy340] #1951980
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Originally Posted By fishy340
2 adults both signed wavers and knew the risk.
Brian and Justin are physically sore but ok,so for all the arm chair experts...you did not get hurt or lose anything but getting a chance to see 2 bada$$ rides entertaining you.


I suppose all of that is true, but I don't watch and I'm not entertained. In the past, many people have gone to great lengths to elevate the image of drag racing above the old public image of hoodlums and street racing. This makes as much sense as taking a couple of NASCAR Cup cars, loading them up with tanks full of hooch, and seeing if they can out run the cops each week on some goofy reality show.

Sorry, not my thing. I see no upside to this for the sport.


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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: J_BODY] #1952042
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I watch the show, and are glad they are OK. I do think it's bad for the sport as well, but it's not up to me what they put on TV. I would rather they did the un-prepped track thing, but again, it's not up to me. I am just amazed they are able to get that HP down a city road, but unfortunately, I think every dufus that has a car they think is fast, does or wants to try this at home. Take it to the track IMO. Also, I would say the low dollar cars are 100K.

Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1952072
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Davis Technologies....Just sayin...

Hope everyone heals up soon. Looks ugly but it is part of racing at the track or street.


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From eyewitness accounts and guys I have talked to........"Chuckie left on Chief and appeared to be a bit ahead the whole way, but Chuckie knew the turbo car would be COMING hard. The car got loose about 500 or so feet and he had to check it. This let Chief get by and Chuckie then hit Chief in the drivers door. That spun the car and slammed it into the curb. When it hit the curb, it snap rolled a few times, got into a chain link fence and then went end over end several times............Bryan(Chuckie)Davis, claimed he never saw the GTO until he hit him. Both cars are junk...........total losses.

Brian is a good driver and long time wheel man of big power rides. He is no hack racer and would never risk his or another guys car just for a win light, but unfortunately, sometimes things happen

Chief is really beat up, as referenced in above post, but the car did it's job, BOTH cars actually did their jobs and these guys walked away. Chief is a BIG guy to be rolling a car like that, so it's a testament to the quality of his car, that all the safety gear and construction, kept him where he was supposed to be.

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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1952103
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Glad all are ok...

I usually don't comment on stuff like this, but seriously, regardless of individual thoughts about this mishap - we are talking about a TV show; planned, written, produced and engineered for ratings and to sell advertising.

Don't get me wrong it cool to see nice / fast cars and what goes into them but the whole crux of the show is BS. Nothing more, nothing less. Whether the viewing audience see it as "entertainment" is a different issue in itself. We ARE talking about TV....right?

As such, for me its BS like every other "reality" show on TV. Regardless of how "badass" the cars are. Its the same reason people out there think a well built car can be done in 2 weeks - like on reality shows. Idiots.

Doesn't portray the sport well either in the unconscious minds of John Citizen watching it either...how can it be good? Perception IS reality for many, what do you think they will be thinking ?

On TV = production = staged = bullsh!t. Unless its LIVE and unedited, its doctored.

At least to me.

Flame away.....

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