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CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 #195464 01/16/09 07:52 PM 01/16/09 07:52 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,169 Richmond, VA R rayztoy OP super stock
rayztoy OP super stock R Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,169 Richmond, VA	Hi, Are these correct NOS? Please check the link. Thanks! Ray http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-1971...itemZ7994022972

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: rayztoy] #195465 01/16/09 07:56 PM 01/16/09 07:56 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,022 Green Lane, PA sawdust super stock
sawdust super stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,022 Green Lane, PA	Cuda 440 six barrel shaker emblems were tapered from what I can remember. The text was tapered from front to back is what I mean, kind of to follow the bubble. May be wrong but this is what I had seen in the past as the difference between shaker and rally hood emblems.

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: rayztoy] #195466 01/16/09 07:58 PM 01/16/09 07:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,788 Ontario, Canada mccannix master
mccannix master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,788 Ontario, Canada	Brushed finish on the 'cuda' part of the nameplate or chrome finish??? That will answer your question.... BTW rallye hood emblems have two pins not three.

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: mccannix] #195467 01/16/09 08:11 PM 01/16/09 08:11 PM
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rayztoy OP super stock R Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,169 Richmond, VA	The ones in the link are chrome finish on the CUDA name, whereas my original ones are brushed on the CUDA name. My originals also have the 3 pins. Are there any repros that are like the originals?

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: rayztoy] #195468 01/16/09 08:18 PM 01/16/09 08:18 PM
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rocketresto enthusiast R Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 335 Olympia WA	Those are repo. I bought a set and was very dissapointed Mike

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: rayztoy] #195469 01/16/09 08:21 PM 01/16/09 08:21 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Thats Frank Mitchell and his chromed repops.Like mentioned earlier,they originally had a brushed finish on the "Cuda".I heard he had the original company in the Detroit area remake all these "NOS" emblems,but they could not dulpicate the brushed finish any more.Either a cost problem or EPA problem I heard

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: rayztoy] #195470 01/16/09 10:26 PM 01/16/09 10:26 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	nos 2 pin emblem just showing the brushed finish 4953112-100_0078.JPG (288 downloads)

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 #195471 01/18/09 11:32 AM 01/18/09 11:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,267 midwest S sg333e super street
sg333e super street S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,267 midwest	Can you guys confirm which ones are correct, original pieces? The two pin version? Did all shakers come with three holes? Hobbies and associated message boards: 1970 Cuda 440+6 FE5 H6X9 4 SP> Moparts.com 1987 Grand National (422rwhp/566tq)> TurboBuick.com 2008 BMW 335 TT 6MT> E90Post.com 2008 Gary Fisher HiFi Plus 29er > MTBR.com 2008 German Shorthair Pointer > Shorthairs.net

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: sg333e] #195472 01/18/09 01:44 PM 01/18/09 01:44 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,169 Richmond, VA R rayztoy OP super stock
rayztoy OP super stock R Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,169 Richmond, VA	My original shaker setup has 3 holes in the bubble, 3 pins with speednuts on the brushed CUDA emblem. Anyone repopping them correctly?

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: rayztoy] #195473 01/18/09 09:28 PM 01/18/09 09:28 PM
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Day2Runner pro stock Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Fort Workin Tx	Quote: My original shaker setup has 3 holes in the bubble, 3 pins with speednuts on the brushed CUDA emblem. Anyone repopping them correctly? mines the same and NO

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: Day2Runner] #195474 01/18/09 10:34 PM 01/18/09 10:34 PM
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shakerjoe master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,003 Long Island, NY	my shaker has 3 holes, but when I picked up the car in 1994, it only had 1 callout on it, with 2 prongs. I picked up a few NOS ones, but they were 2 prong emblems also. I've never seen a 3 prong emblem in person - but all the ones I have are brushed, not shiny. I'm sure my shaker bubble is original - looks like it has some time on the job, has some of the over spray on the underside, part #, and is in pretty used condition, and as far as I know, the repro's weren't out yet - Joe

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: sg333e] #195475 01/18/09 10:45 PM 01/18/09 10:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,386 White Plains, NY VCODE top fuel
VCODE top fuel Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,386 White Plains, NY	Quote: Can you guys confirm which ones are correct, original pieces? The two pin version? Did all shakers come with three holes? My 2 shaker cuda's have 3 holes with 3 pin emblems Bob 4957528-shaker%20numbersA.jpg (284 downloads) Mom & Dad let me buy a brand new 70 Challenger R/T 440 Six-Pack Super Trac Pack when I was 17 (Robert what is a 440 Six-Pack)

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: VCODE] #195476 01/19/09 12:42 AM 01/19/09 12:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	All factory installed emblems were 3 pin and brushed

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #195477 01/20/09 02:00 AM 01/20/09 02:00 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,039 INDIANA P Paul Jacobs super stock
Paul Jacobs super stock P Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,039 INDIANA	Scott, As the above poster was saying, I too took apart a real early built shaker (9-69) and it had 2 pin emblems in it (though it was drilled for three). It was an orig paint bubble, but whats the story on the emblems? Possible supply issue with the 3 pin ones and they threw on some 2 pin emblems instead? After all 2 pins are very commonplace but finding the real 3 pins is tough!

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: Paul Jacobs] #195478 01/20/09 03:16 AM 01/20/09 03:16 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Paul I understand the "Never say never" deal but I'm gonna have to call you on that one, I know that you know your stuff but I've seen dozens of original bubbles on and off cars, never seen a factory one wearing 2 pin emblems. I'd guess they were replaced somewhere along the line (obviously a simple swap). Do you have any quality photos of your discoveries?

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #195479 01/20/09 09:38 AM 01/20/09 09:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,984 Montreal,Quebec,Canada J JulesdaWiperman super gas
JulesdaWiperman super gas J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,984 Montreal,Quebec,Canada	I wish I had a few dozen of these and not just the one I got from a garage clearout. I sold it last year to a moparts member. Jules 4960462-a(8).jpg (318 downloads)

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #195480 01/20/09 01:29 PM 01/20/09 01:29 PM
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mccannix master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,788 Ontario, Canada	Shaker nameplates were all applied to the scoop by Fram before packaging the assembled units, sent via bedsteads to Hamtramck assembly. The only nameplates they had in their facility were the 3 prong since that is all they dealt with. As with Jules' photo, its always nice to have the original packaging to back up the real deal verses the all chrome repros. 4960774-shakername.jpg (119 downloads)

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: mccannix] #195481 01/21/09 07:46 AM 01/21/09 07:46 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,923 Medina, Ohio HEMICUDA top fuel
HEMICUDA top fuel Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,923 Medina, Ohio	Quote: Shaker nameplates were all applied to the scoop by Fram before packaging the assembled units, sent via bedsteads to Hamtramck assembly. The only nameplates they had in their facility were the 3 prong since that is all they dealt with. As with Jules' photo, its always nice to have the original packaging to back up the real deal verses the all chrome repros. Terry, we ready to get everyone jacked up yet about the shaker adapter rings? Come on, it will be fun and I think we owe it to all our friends here on the board. If you start it I'll post pictures with you of my examples.

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: HEMICUDA] #195482 01/21/09 11:08 PM 01/21/09 11:08 PM
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Paul Jacobs super stock P Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,039 INDIANA	Scott & Terry, Thanks for the info on the emblems. The reason I was asking is because in the parts manual, specifically under shaker hood (sec23) it gives the emblem part number as 2998798, which is pictured-a 2 pin emblem. 4964620-nameplate.JPG (207 downloads)

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: Paul Jacobs] #195483 01/21/09 11:14 PM 01/21/09 11:14 PM
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Paul Jacobs super stock P Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,039 INDIANA	the book 4964639-IL23-147.jpg (204 downloads)

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: rayztoy] #195484 01/21/09 11:49 PM 01/21/09 11:49 PM
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UCUDANT Troll Hunter Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,157 New Mexico	1970 original 440-6 (yes the bubble is mounted to the hood) 4964728-15129847lg.jpg (118 downloads)

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: UCUDANT] #195485 01/22/09 12:08 AM 01/22/09 12:08 AM
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Ludington1 master Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,072 Farmland, IN	While all the experts are here on the subject, here is a pic of my bubble. I didn't actually get the bubble out, this pic is old, but it sure looks like it has 4 holes. Is there any logical reason why someone would have added a 4th hole in-line with the emblem holes? I guess the Challenger emblem should read "383 Four Barrel" for a 71 R/T shaker? And equally should use a 3-pin emblem? Thanks! Darren 4964774-1971ChallengerRTShakerParts_016s.jpg (96 downloads)

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: Ludington1] #195486 01/22/09 02:19 AM 01/22/09 02:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Paul, Parts manual information sometimes differs from what was actually used in production, the reasons vary but usually last minute changes or mistakes had occured that didn't make it into the manual before it was printed, likely the scenario in this case. Ludington, hard to say but originals only had 3 holes, it's likely someone added a custom/non stock emblem in the past that required an extra hole, tough to guess on that one.

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: Ludington1] #195487 01/22/09 02:24 AM 01/22/09 02:24 AM
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mccannix master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,788 Ontario, Canada	Paul Interesting observation and picture, but could one possibly also interpret that to mean nameplate for the scoop on the hood of a steel hood. I assume those are the nameplates that came with that packaging. The photo Jules submitted is a true 440-6 shaker 3 prong nameplate and the box with it has 3462273, a part number number that is found in an earlier printing of the 71 parts books indicating shaker scoop nameplate. Parts books printings were updated along the way through the model year to correct or update. I notice yours is a Dec 1971 printing, the final printing and there are two asteriks beside the part number 2998798 which the key states "indicates change or addition". Another oddity in the same column is "340 four barrel" obviously a Challenger emblem in the Cuda section.

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: Paul Jacobs] #195488 01/22/09 08:08 AM 01/22/09 08:08 AM
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VCODE top fuel Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,386 White Plains, NY	Quote: the book Paul, I have looked at the same numbers and found that even the 'cuda340 emblems are listed 159, but are for the 2 pin ones and are for the steel hood. Bob Mom & Dad let me buy a brand new 70 Challenger R/T 440 Six-Pack Super Trac Pack when I was 17 (Robert what is a 440 Six-Pack)

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: mccannix] #195489 01/22/09 11:41 PM 01/22/09 11:41 PM
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xs29j8 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,624 Fort Worth, Texas	Quote: The photo Jules submitted is a true 440-6 shaker 3 prong nameplate and the box with it has 3462273, a part number number that is found in an earlier printing of the 71 parts books indicating shaker scoop nameplate. Parts books printings were updated along the way through the model year to correct or update. I notice yours is a Dec 1971 printing, the final printing and there are two asteriks beside the part number 2998798 which the key states "indicates change or addition". I just looked at the 3 pin original Shaker emblems from my 1970 `Cuda 440-6 that I purchased in 1981... both emblems have P/N 3462273. The replacement emblems on the car at the moment are the 2 pin P/N 2998798 bought from a dealer in about 1982. XS

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: xs29j8] #195490 01/22/09 11:54 PM 01/22/09 11:54 PM
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Paul Jacobs super stock P Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,039 INDIANA	It's official-I give up on E bodies, I'm going back to B bodies where I belong No really the more I learn the more I din't understand about these dxxx cars. After 20 years it's amazing what one can still learn, but fun nonetheless!

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: Paul Jacobs] #195491 01/23/09 09:12 AM 01/23/09 09:12 AM
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mccannix master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,788 Ontario, Canada	Paul Dont give up that easy. These cars all baffle us when we find things that arent supposed to be. Who's to really say for certain. Just for the heck of it here's a page in the 23 section of another Dec 1971 printing showing the shaker nameplates for 1971 Cuda ( top left of photo) 4967404-partsbook4.jpg (169 downloads)

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: mccannix] #195492 01/23/09 09:19 AM 01/23/09 09:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,788 Ontario, Canada mccannix master
mccannix master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,788 Ontario, Canada	same parts book showing shaker nameplates for 1970 Cuda, top columns....the two prong steel hood nameplates below that 4967409-partsbook1.jpg (98 downloads)

Re: CUDA SHAKER BUBBLE EMBLEMS 440-6 [Re: mccannix] #195493 01/23/09 09:28 AM 01/23/09 09:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,788 Ontario, Canada mccannix master
mccannix master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,788 Ontario, Canada	A photo of the rear of the two pin and three pin 440-6 nameplates. They were two different castings as seen by the casting number on the rear... 3462273 on the 3 pin... 2998781 on the two pin, same vendor 31025. 4967419-shakerrear1.jpg (119 downloads)

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