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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1954281
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He should try and buy the dart formally know as........They need more mopar on that show


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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1954282
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My point is a Hemi car would be an investment. Racecars are entertainment. I don't own a restored show queen, as they are not fun to me.





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Originally Posted By hotairballoonpilot
He should try and buy the dart formally know as........They need more mopar on that show


He already came out on his facebook and said it will be a pontiac. I think it should be a 79 pontiac sunbird wagon!

If Daddy Dave's car is any indication, that 120 day turn around for them to have a new ride isn't far off. His new goliath is just getting out of paint.

Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #1954299
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Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
So $150,000 spent on something like the crow, vs $150,000 spent on a Hemi car restoration, is somehow different money???

Where is that logic?


Exactly.

Either way your out $150,000




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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1954314
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i for one absolutely love the show.
guys that will street race will street race period. i think everyone thats a car nut has driven too fast on public roads more than once and discipline has to be learned by everyone the same. when someone has that much money and time invested in their car, you dont need to remind them whats at stake. twocents drinking


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The car is JUNK and will NOT have just a new skin put on it.......and some of you guys kill me. It's not like Chief just woke up one day and said hey, I think I will build a 4sec, twin turbo, Pontiac powered race car. That was his FIRST car, had it since high school and as MANY others have done, the car morphed over time to what it ended up. Just a few years ago, it was ladder bar, homebuilt, 2x3 backhalf car, with a Pontiac nitrous motor in it. He sold the nitrous motor when he decided to build the turbo motor and also saved his pennies to have the chassis redone. Up until the car reappeared on the show, Chief hadn't raced on the "list" in about 5 years, because it took every penny he had to update the car.

The car will not be rebuilt quickly, without serious outside help, because Chief simply doesn't have that kind of dough. Remains to be seen if Pilgrim Studios may help........but doubtful. Sure, he will get boatloads of free or reduced price parts in an attempt to help him out, but somebody will still have to build the car and that takes time and money.

As with Daddy Dave's car, all the driveline, electronics, etc, will be stripped from the carcass, so it's not like he needs everything. He needs a chassis, with a body hung on it.....he pretty much has the rest

Also funny how people think these guys make so much money. What Pilgrim Studios pay them in actual money is a joke. Some of the regulars on the show make NOTHING, for busting their azzes...... some make $500 a week IF they race that week. Others make $1500 a week if they race and others are on "Contract". Only Farmtruck and Azn have a full time film crew. Those guys are being filmed ALL the time and all that BS they are up to for the show, is because that's their JOB. They probably get paid way more than anyone else.........

Now some of them are making money off the fame of the show, by way of track appearances and selling T-shirts, which is great for them, because Pilgrim ain't paying them squat. Most signed some kind of paperwork when the show first came on and nobody thought it would last more than a couple episodes. Here they are filming season 8 and those guys still have those same contracts they signed before.

And the filming schedule is brutal. You pretty much go, where they want you to go, when they want you there. There is little down time and they DO NOT understand what it takes to keep these cars running. On "Race Night", they want you on site by 5pm. They generally finally start racing around midnight and quit when the sun comes up. For the last Cash Days, we left the site at 5:30 AM Saturday morning and 5:00 AM Sunday morning. So back to back 12 hour days at the site, plus anything else you need to do...........Like THIS week, they will be racing TONIGHT. These guys have jobs. So they will work today, race all night and have to work tomorrow. The schedule is NOT fun

Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1954323
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[quote] And the filming schedule is brutal. You pretty much go, where they want you to go, when they want you there. There is little down time and they DO NOT understand what it takes to keep these cars running. On "Race Night", they want you on site by 5pm. They generally finally start racing around midnight and quit when the sun comes up. For the last Cash Days, we left the site at 5:30 AM Saturday morning and 5:00 AM Sunday morning. So back to back 12 hour days at the site, plus anything else you need to do...........Like THIS week, they will be racing TONIGHT. These guys have jobs. So they will work today, race all night and have to work tomorrow. The schedule is NOT fun [quote]


Like the show and they seem like "likeable" folks. As far as what it's done to increase street racing I think though negligible it is regrettable. That said....Boo Hoo on the filming schedule Monte. That sounds like a typical race weekend for a lot of hardcore racers. Hoping they get back together and glad no one was more seriously injured.


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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1954333
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Monte I love the inside info you give us, much appreciated, it really puts things into perspective. I rarely watch NHRA on TV but I watch S.O. every week.


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Yes I realize that many racers share a similar schedule.........but I doubt there is anyone there telling you that you HAVE to be there or else. Family, other priorities and commitments do NOT matter to them. They change the schedule on a whim and you are expected to be there. And they leverage that by NOT allowing some guys to race that make them mad.

They do have a new producer who is much better........but, they are still all about the show. After Chief's crash.......not one person from Pilgrim went to the hospital to check on him. All they wanted to know was how long would it take to "fix" it and seemed upset that Chief likely wouldn't be able to "flag" tonight's races......you know, with two crushed vertebrae and all.........LOL!!

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Monte you are a patient man.




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I see what you are saying. I really hope everyone that was hurt gets well as I enjoy the show. I also noted that somebody compared the cost of a race car to a Hemi car? Apples to oranges. Neither one is a smart investment. But you will lose more on the race car. It takes a long time to build something. My junk used to run 12.50s in 2000 and just got it where it is now a couple of years back. I am gonna bet Chief gets paid well on the show. Why else would they want him back that quick when he is hurting? He either is contracted or the production company don't give a damn about his health. Only the ratings. whistling


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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1954443
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I enjoy the show. Most a** clowns don't understand the time and effort that went into that car. I hope both guy's are all right and able to get back on their feet soon After seeing Jeff Lutz car lose on the unprepped street I think it was last year I know those cars are no joke as Lutz's car is one fast car Yea I know its a Chevy but that car does haul tail.

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Originally Posted By 66 Belvedere
Monte you are a patient man.




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Originally Posted By Paul_Fancsali
I enjoy the show. Most a** clowns don't understand the time and effort that went into that car. I hope both guy's are all right and able to get back on their feet soon After seeing Jeff Lutz car lose on the unprepped street I think it was last year I know those cars are no joke as Lutz's car is one fast car Yea I know its a Chevy but that car does haul tail.




YES it does fly. This is Jeff's car at Pittsburgh Raceway Park. Look at the front tires and look at were he is on the track. The flag is 1/8 mile

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Re: The Crow, Street Outlaws car involved in bad wreck [Re: pittsburghracer] #1954475
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Big Chief talks about his recent crash with Brian "Chucky" Davis.
Props to both of them!
This is how you handle a unfortunate situation!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10204100638391188&pnref=story

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Everybody LISTEN to this clip please........THIS IS WHO THESE GUYS ARE. They were my friends before this show and will be after. Just a good bunch of guys, who work hard to play hard and happen to be getting their 15 minutes of fame, but are still the same guys they WERE.

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Originally Posted By 66 Belvedere
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Not really......I just HATE misinformation from people who THINK they know the real deal, when in reality they know NOTHING of what they speak.

Everybody has an opinion of the show and how they THINK it works. Well you post those "thinks" enough and then several others read that and opinions soon become accepted truths.

Plus.........as said above, these guys are my friends and I AM going to speak my mind if I feel they are being hated on at times...........they will and HAVE done the same for me.

Same deal with Jeff Lutz. He is a friend and I will tell ANYBODY he is a friend of mine. Could care less about the big "hate" thread that was started about him and the rumors that got around. I KNOW Jeff and what kind of person he is and didn't form that opinion by reading a thread about him on the internet

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I was actually going to reply to your last 2 posts, but they spesak for themselves.


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Monte please don't take my post as a knock. I would love to be on a tv show involving racing 😉


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That video just shows how much class, respect those guys have understanding the big picture.....

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