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Re: ADJUSTABLE STRUT RODS - different designs [Re: Mopar Mitch] #1949464
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I appreciate these comments, opinions and ideas. I don't, unfortunately, have the luxury of comparing any of all these struts side-by-side.


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Re: ADJUSTABLE STRUT RODS - different designs [Re: Mopar Mitch] #1949486
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Fastest cars at the Mopar events are all running Hotchkis equipment. Most other manufactures don't even bother to try to keep up. Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Re: ADJUSTABLE STRUT RODS - different designs [Re: 68rrunner] #1949491
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I put a quick eye ball on a K frame laying around. The OEM strut pivot point and the LCA point appear to be in line, I'm humbled and apologetic that i might have helped in splitting hairs and chasing our own tails on this whole subject. eek bawling


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Re: ADJUSTABLE STRUT RODS - different designs [Re: autoxcuda] #1949766
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Originally Posted By autoxcuda
Originally Posted By geo.
Wonder how the Nichels stock car arrangement would compare.
They welded a sleeve into the k-member, screwed in what looked like a typical Mopar ball joint, and joined it to a shortened two piece strut rod, with a threaded collar. A tie rod type adjustment was used to change the length as needed.


Would work like the Mustang ones that nstgl1970 posted about. In other words, perfectly fine and with more resistance to wear than a spherical rod end.


Yes! I missed the mustang pic, how 'bout a mustang Mopar hybrid, with a protective boot. Might be best of all.

Re: ADJUSTABLE STRUT RODS - different designs [Re: TC@HP2] #1949770
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Originally Posted By TC@HP2
Originally Posted By geo.
Wonder how the Nichels stock car arrangement would compare.
They welded a sleeve into the k-member, screwed in what looked like a typical Mopar ball joint, and joined it to a shortened two piece strut rod, with a threaded collar. A tie rod type adjustment was used to change the length as needed.


That's similar to what I proposed, only I'm saying don't bother with the welding and screwing in the ball joint. You'll eventually fatigue the threads and have to replace the sleeve. Instead, use a bolt in ball joint.


Yea that would be good too, especially if you can't or don't want to weld anything to your K member. I'd think any ball joint would be more wear resistant than a heim.
Not sure I'd agree on the threads wearing out though, have you seen any worn out upper control arm threads?

Re: ADJUSTABLE STRUT RODS - different designs [Re: geo.] #1949771
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Originally Posted By geo.
Originally Posted By TC@HP2
Originally Posted By geo.
Wonder how the Nichels stock car arrangement would compare.
They welded a sleeve into the k-member, screwed in what looked like a typical Mopar ball joint, and joined it to a shortened two piece strut rod, with a threaded collar. A tie rod type adjustment was used to change the length as needed.


That's similar to what I proposed, only I'm saying don't bother with the welding and screwing in the ball joint. You'll eventually fatigue the threads and have to replace the sleeve. Instead, use a bolt in ball joint.


Yea that would be good too, especially if you can't or don't want to weld anything to your K member. I'd think any ball joint would be more wear resistant than a heim.
Not sure I'd agree on the threads wearing out though, have you seen any worn out upper control arm threads?
You gave me an idea.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Steel-Upper-Ball-Joint-Sleeve-K772-Style,2126.html


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Re: ADJUSTABLE STRUT RODS - different designs [Re: geo.] #1949945
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Originally Posted By geo.
Not sure I'd agree on the threads wearing out though, have you seen any worn out upper control arm threads?


Yup, and it is occasionally posted here as well when some one can get a ball joint into the control arm but not get it to torque to spec. Solution from way back was to put 3-4 tack welds on the ball joint to hold it in the control arm.

Re: ADJUSTABLE STRUT RODS - different designs [Re: TC@HP2] #1949996
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Originally Posted By TC@HP2
Originally Posted By geo.
Not sure I'd agree on the threads wearing out though, have you seen any worn out upper control arm threads?


Yup, and it is occasionally posted here as well when some one can get a ball joint into the control arm but not get it to torque to spec. Solution from way back was to put 3-4 tack welds on the ball joint to hold it in the control arm.


Now that you mention it I've done that myself a looooong time ago, and it worked!

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