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Challenger T/A "blackout" areas #194260 01/15/09 10:37 AM 01/15/09 10:37 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 885 alberta Publicbottle OP super stock
Publicbottle OP super stock Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 885 alberta	Hi all, I have my 70 Challenger at the body shop now, the body guy isnt super-familiar with mopars and i was looking for some proper documentation regarding the T/A black out areas. I know the Tail panel, underhood cowl and inner-fenders are black, but where exactly does the black paint start and finish? Am i am missing any other areas? Thanks for any help guys!!

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Publicbottle] #194261 01/15/09 10:42 AM 01/15/09 10:42 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy master
Troy master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	This should help some.... 4949569-TAAFTERPAINT(4)(Small).jpg (1384 downloads) ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Troy] #194262 01/15/09 10:43 AM 01/15/09 10:43 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy master
Troy master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	.... 4949571-IMG_2850_1.jpg (874 downloads) ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Troy] #194263 01/15/09 10:44 AM 01/15/09 10:44 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy master
Troy master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	4949573-Picture123(Medium).jpg (911 downloads) ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Troy] #194264 01/15/09 10:45 AM 01/15/09 10:45 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy master
Troy master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	4949574-Picture124(Medium).jpg (804 downloads) ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Troy] #194265 01/15/09 01:15 PM 01/15/09 01:15 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,493 the boonies aarcuda I Live Here
aarcuda I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,493 the boonies	let me ask this, was the underhood paint on the cowl and the fender edges nontextured flat black or textured organisol?

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: aarcuda] #194266 01/15/09 01:26 PM 01/15/09 01:26 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 909 Mississauga, Canada KARLN super stock
KARLN super stock Joined: May 2005 Posts: 909 Mississauga, Canada	Thanks as always Troy for sharing your info. I the finish for the cowl etc is Organisol. B5 Challenger T/A

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Troy] #194267 01/15/09 01:27 PM 01/15/09 01:27 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 788 middle of the country A aar1 super stock
aar1 super stock A Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 788 middle of the country	What about the radiator support (or is that a cuda thing)?

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: aar1] #194268 01/15/09 01:48 PM 01/15/09 01:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,343 Crook County, ILL Mastershake340 master
Mastershake340 master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,343 Crook County, ILL	Quote: What about the radiator support (or is that a cuda thing)? The radiator support does get blacked out. 4949928-ei003.jpg (646 downloads)

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Mastershake340] #194269 01/15/09 01:49 PM 01/15/09 01:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,343 Crook County, ILL Mastershake340 master
Mastershake340 master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,343 Crook County, ILL	As does the pinch weld. 4949933-unrestoredpinchweld.jpg (702 downloads)

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Mastershake340] #194270 01/15/09 02:38 PM 01/15/09 02:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 885 alberta Publicbottle OP super stock
Publicbottle OP super stock Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 885 alberta	AWESOME info guys!! THANKS!! How about the tail panel and around the trunk lid? Just to confirm: All blacked out areas are Organisol??

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Publicbottle] #194271 01/15/09 03:06 PM 01/15/09 03:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,343 Crook County, ILL Mastershake340 master
Mastershake340 master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,343 Crook County, ILL	definately. 4950065-NormsTA8-7001.jpg (630 downloads)

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Mastershake340] #194272 01/15/09 03:09 PM 01/15/09 03:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,343 Crook County, ILL Mastershake340 master
Mastershake340 master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,343 Crook County, ILL	I believe this is one of Troy's car before he stripped the paint. 4950071-blackoutlayout.JPG (642 downloads)

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Mastershake340] #194273 01/15/09 03:12 PM 01/15/09 03:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,343 Crook County, ILL Mastershake340 master
Mastershake340 master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,343 Crook County, ILL	A tailight area detail shot of the "173" mile T/A that Barry Washington took. You can buy a DVD of all the detail shots of this low mile unrestored car from Barry, and check out factory drawings like the one I posted on his Challenger T/A registry and Hammtramk registry websites. (IIRC the drawings may have been pulled at Chrysler's request, but Chrysler historical was going to make them available?) 4950075-4333491-Blackoutandstripes13.jpg (628 downloads)

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Mastershake340] #194274 01/15/09 03:59 PM 01/15/09 03:59 PM
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aarcuda I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,493 the boonies	organisol on the cowl???? by thew windshield??? really? I always thought it was simply flat black paint.

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: aarcuda] #194275 01/15/09 04:06 PM 01/15/09 04:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,343 Crook County, ILL Mastershake340 master
Mastershake340 master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,343 Crook County, ILL	I meant "definitely" the tail panel and the trunk lip are black, I'll let someone else clue us in as to which areas got black paint and which got organsol, I know both were used but not every detail of which is used where.

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Publicbottle] #194276 01/15/09 04:13 PM 01/15/09 04:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,376 NORTHERN CA HUSTLESTUFF pro stock
HUSTLESTUFF pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,376 NORTHERN CA	Did the AAR's also get the black under the rear spoiler and rockers? And which color, organosol or flat for under hood? Thanks, Mike

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: HUSTLESTUFF] #194277 01/15/09 06:33 PM 01/15/09 06:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,679 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,679 Hamtramck, PA	Quote: Did the AAR's also get the black under the rear spoiler? No. Quote: Did the AAR's also get the black under the rockers? Yes. Quote: which color, organosol or flat for under hood? Thanks, Mike Trim paint or Organisol could be used.

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Alaskan_TA] #194278 01/15/09 08:35 PM 01/15/09 08:35 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 214 Rochester,MN Sixpackman340 I'll wait forever
Sixpackman340 I'll wait forever Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 214 Rochester,MN	what was the point of going through the trouble of painting the pinch weld on the rocker??? Is that a decal under the spoiler? any reason behind this? around the cowl, did the factory tape it off like that or did they just overspray onto the firewall??? Thanks guys

Re: Challenger T/A "blackout" areas [Re: Sixpackman340] #194279 01/15/09 08:49 PM 01/15/09 08:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,679 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,679 Hamtramck, PA	Quote: what was the point of going through the trouble of painting the pinch weld on the rocker??? Pinch welds are ugly, this 'disguises" them. Quote: Is that a decal under the spoiler? Yes, they come with the T/A stripe kit. The intent with the T/As was that no body color would show from the rear of the car in this area. Quote: around the cowl, did the factory tape it off like that or did they just overspray onto the firewall? They sprayed the black first, then masked it off and sprayed the body color.

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