Re: 318 Duster won't keep timing
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is the distrib clamp bolt tight? I cant think of anything besides this that would let the timing change.
Take care, Rick 68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451
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Re: 318 Duster won't keep timing
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is the distrib clamp bolt tight? I cant think of anything besides this that would let the timing change. I just checked it to be sure and it's tight..
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Re: 318 Duster won't keep timing
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it won't start again until I have reset the timing. Once it is reset, it starts right up.
-The air gap for the distributor is in spec Electronic ign conversion or are you meanin point gap?. If point gap next time (actually with either one) BEFORE you crank it see what the gap is & you might pull (& GROUND) the coil wire & crank it & see what the timing light shows for initial. Any possibiblity it ain't a timing issue & something else is causing this (heat soak etc). I would go over the dist innards from head to toe tho.
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Re: 318 Duster won't keep timing
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Is there any consistency in the amount of timing that is off? Not that I can detect
Is it retarded or advanced? The factory specification for 1968 is 10 degrees advanced. When the timing shifts after operation, it appears to be retarded. Because I have to advance it to put it back to spec.
Do you have to reset the timing no matter if the car is cold or still hot/warm? The timing only shifts after it has been in operation, so warm.
Last, have you ever checked the timing before you shut it off? I haven't tried that yet.
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Re: 318 Duster won't keep timing
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it won't start again until I have reset the timing. Once it is reset, it starts right up.
-The air gap for the distributor is in spec Electronic ign conversion or are you meanin point gap?. If point gap next time (actually with either one) BEFORE you crank it see what the gap is & you might pull (& GROUND) the coil wire & crank it & see what the timing light shows for initial. Any possibiblity it ain't a timing issue & something else is causing this (heat soak etc). I would go over the dist innards from head to toe tho. The car is electronic ignition. I've changed the cap and ordered a new distributor, hopefully this will help.
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Re: 318 Duster won't keep timing
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Vacuum disconnected when setting timing?
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Re: 318 Duster won't keep timing
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gear on the distributor? There is no gear on a small block distributor, nor a big block for that matter. There is one on the slant 6 though.
If the gear on the intermediate shaft was loose, which is where the gear that drives the distributor is actually located, then the oil pump would be failing too. Has the OP seen oil pressure issues?
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Re: 318 Duster won't keep timing
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this deal ain't makin any sense, we're missing something here. I cant wait till we get to the bottom of whats going on
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Re: 318 Duster won't keep timing
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Good point, bolt could be bottoming out before the clamp tightens down on the distributor.
Other thing that's been floating in my head, and it's way out there, is a broken distributor shaft inside the housing.
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Re: 318 Duster won't keep timing
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Vacuum disconnected when setting timing? The vacuum is blocked when setting timing, so yes.
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Re: 318 Duster won't keep timing
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Check the gear on the distributor,is it tight? It is tight.
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