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Re: Fast Man EFI and Holley News [Re: dthemi] #1894440
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That's a sanctioning body decision. It seems to me that they intentionally make the systems dumb.

Monte, I think you had every right to snap. People are all too fast to whine, place blame, and make up stories. Reality needs to be re-established.

I remember back in the '70s when it seemed the EPA was going to kill the car hobby/way of life. Holley was one of the companies that didn't roll over and die. Holley by itself has kept the carbureted world alive and kicking, with a few stumbles (4360,4010) along the way. Holley carbs of today are worlds better than the golden oldies. And now that they make the best Thermoquad substitute, life is good. Edelbrock, another company I respect for keeping the show alive, didn't start making carbs until it was established that they could still be viable.

Back to now...I predict that within 2 months of the first new Pro Stock race, there will be griping about certain teams getting inside programming help.

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Re: Fast Man EFI and Holley News [Re: Mopar_Rich] #1894570
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How many Pro Stock teams are there? 20-30? I doubt Holley would ever make a profit on these units. Maybe they will sell their similar system to us regular guys after the pros get them to fly? If I was going to make parts for a small group, I'd want an exclusive deal for a couple of years. I'm kind of surprised the Chinese haven't made knockoffs of the Holley carbs, aka, Horrey Calbulatols! LOL!


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Re: Fast Man EFI and Holley News [Re: Mopar_Rich] #1894656
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If it ruffles anybody's feathers or not,,,the truth is, the ONLY thing behind ANY decisions made by businesses and NHRA is ALL ABOUT MONEY. The rule change is ALL ABOUT MONEY. More of NHRA's ideas to improve ticket sales. I don't see it helping though.
Call it conspiracy or whatever.....it's money based. $.02


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Re: Fast Man EFI and Holley News [Re: mr_340] #1895361
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Originally Posted By mr_340
How many Pro Stock teams are there? 20-30? I doubt Holley would ever make a profit on these units. Maybe they will sell their similar system to us regular guys after the pros get them to fly? If I was going to make parts for a small group, I'd want an exclusive deal for a couple of years. I'm kind of surprised the Chinese haven't made knockoffs of the Holley carbs, aka, Horrey Calbulatols! LOL!
What part of "they will use our existing ECUs" do you guys not understand. There will be no "special" Pro-Stock ECU, other than possibly a software change, which is a simple "flash" of the unit

Re: Fast Man EFI and Holley News [Re: Mopar_Rich] #1895686
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Did I say anything about the ECU? NO! I suppose the new throttle body is used somewhere else too?

Now NHRA published the new rules and parts lists and they call it:

"554-129 Holley EFI NHRA Pro Stock ECU"

Maybe that is where someone ELSE thinks it's a special unit? I can read your comments just fine. I may decide to block you from here on out, so if I miss something in the future, you will know why?


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Re: Fast Man EFI and Holley News [Re: Mopar_Rich] #1895698
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There is a great write up about this on Bangshift.com. From what it looks like if you were new to the pro stock game this EFI deal is WAY cheaper than some dominators....I think it mentions some teams have a $30,000 CARB BUDGET. Plus I doubt any of the teams have an "old trusty" intake manifold they run every race all the time, so I am sure getting a new intake is no big deal either as that something I am sure is constantly evolving anyways.

http://bangshift.com/bangshift1320/bangs...unning-in-2016/


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Re: Fast Man EFI and Holley News [Re: Monte_Smith] #1895740
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
But you will notice it only took until the SECOND post in the thread before it was mentioned about "how" the deal was done. Typical these days. I just find it sad to think that so many feel the whole world works that way
My statement about NHRA decision making is based on over 33 yrs of racing in NHRA, I have personally seen decisions made by NHRA employees and thier decision makers based on input by personnel freindship, sponsor participation confused I've been told by NHRA officials, past NHRA division 7 director, that we, sportmans racers, are only allowed in to particpate at NHRA national races as filler between the Pro Car races, he said no one pays to watch sportman race, they pay money to see the fast cars only. I ask him how many people paid to watch and race at the original Sprtsman National in Bowling Green,KY and how much money NHRA had lost on the Supernational races at Ontario, CA before they combined the NHRA world Finals with the Supernationals. Needless to say he didn't make any comments about that confused I know every organization out there needs to make enough money to open the gates and pay the staff and other ancillary costs up When NHRA was forced by a lawsuit, from a imjured Sportman racer, to become a California for profit organization, because of keeping a large amount of money in reserve, that convince me that most of the decision makers at NHRA are in it for the money, salarys or hourly rate, bonuses, benifits, perks and so on shruggy In all truthfulness I would probally be that way also devil BTW, I do have some other insights and input from former NHRA employees and volunteers also up Monte, I'm not putting you or Holley down on this tsk, I'm voicing my opinion on past decision making by NHRA shruggy

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Re: Fast Man EFI and Holley News [Re: Cab_Burge] #1895763
08/20/15 06:31 AM
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So, will the move to EFI in PS result in a wider selection of intake manifolds for other engines (i.e. #I'dKillForALowDeckMPIintakeFromEdelbrock) or will development be limited to PS-based blocks/intakes?

Re: Fast Man EFI and Holley News [Re: Mopar_Rich] #1895931
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Wish they would've ditched the engines too. Limit them to 7.0L production based with pushrods.


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