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CSR SuperShield...... details ? #187475
01/08/09 02:15 AM
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anyone have complete data on this piece?

Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: IcorkSOAK] #187476
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Are you asking about the CSR carbon-fiber trans shields? Not sure exactly what you mean by "data"...

Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: BradH] #187477
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Are you asking about the CSR carbon-fiber trans shields? Not sure exactly what you mean by "data"...




These shields are often called carbon fiber but they are actually Kevlar with what appears to be an epoxy or Gel coat covering the Kevlar.
I spoke to the manufacturer and he told me that they do extensive testing to certify to the SFI spec.
Still I hope I never have to personally find out if they will hold an exploding 727.

Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: DodgeCharger] #187478
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Are you asking about the CSR carbon-fiber trans shields? Not sure exactly what you mean by "data"...




These shields are often called carbon fiber but they are actually Kevlar with what appears to be an epoxy or Gel coat covering the Kevlar.
I spoke to the manufacturer and he told me that they do extensive testing to certify to the SFI spec.
Still I hope I never have to personally find out if they will hold an exploding 727.





Like weight, thickness, cost. And if the SFI cert does expire....and if it can be re-certed and the cost of same.

Are there any published tests ? ... can you explain what you mean by "extensive testing" ? ....

THANKS

Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: IcorkSOAK] #187479
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They are to be used in stock bodied floor cars, If used in a tube chassis car (aluminum floor) you NEED to have a after market aluminum drum or steel billet drum. They changed from CSI to CSR for a reason.
I have one in each of my two drag cars and I have seen them do there job more than once by others when applied correctly. Cert expires every 5 years, I just had 2 of them recertified.

Keith

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Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: DodgeCharger] #187480
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Still I hope I never have to personally find out if they will hold an exploding 727.



true. i have one as well & sure am glad this didn't happen to my car.

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Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: Keith Richards] #187481
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They are to be used in stock bodied floor cars




Good luck getting it to fit in a stock floor. I can tell you with 100% certainty it will not fit a stock a-body floor without modifications.

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They changed from CSI to CSR for a reason.




What are you implying here?...

Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: dizuster] #187482
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I have on in my 69 charger 496/727 fits great and i also have one in my 72 dodge colt 2.4L/904 fits like it was made to go there........

Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: dizuster] #187483
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Good luck getting it to fit in a stock floor. I can tell you with 100% certainty it will not fit a stock a-body floor without modifications.





not much of a mod really. what, 1 minute with a rubber mullet to massage over the firewall pinch weld? doesn't have to look pretty, the shield hides your handywork.

Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: IcorkSOAK] #187484
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the shield is a nice piece ,I have the super shield on my 65 Coronet it fit perfect other than the front trans line . Also you have to remove the casting ears from the trans case. If you purchase one make absolutely sure you do not trim or modify any part of it. I trimmed mine about 1/4 inch to clear the front cooler line and now they will not certify it. The certification is good for 5 years, it cost $25 per sticker which it has two also you have buy new bolts when getting recert.total cost minus shipping is about$75 it's a ripoff having to do this , but the establishments say so , so you play the game.Now that I vented my frustrations about CSR .I wouldn't run without some kind of protection. It is a nice piece but could be better ,it weighs in at 4lbs about 1/4 inch thick and cost about $400


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Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: 65dragnet] #187485
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My SB 727/CSR fits my Barracuda without modifications.(to the car)
Now I need one for a 904.

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Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: 65dragnet] #187486
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I had one and tried to install it in an a body with a 727 in the stock location. It was nowhere close to fitting without a huge hammer , im talking like beat the floor up about an inch or more. My car is a original 69 340 swinger.I didnt want to do that. I sent it back and installed a jw ultrabell and a blanket instead. Miles of clearance to the stock floor

Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: S/ST 3040] #187487
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My SB 727/CSR fits my Barracuda without modifications.(to the car)




Scratch that.

I forgot........mine was originally a Formula S/4-speed so, the floor
where the shifter was, must not be as tight as a factory automatic.

Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: S/ST 3040] #187488
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Yeah the flange was the easy part. It was the rear portion that was problematic. The "hump" that holds the 3" belt in place hit the floor. I wasn't willing just to beat the floor to sucess. Also, it's right were the factory console shift brackets go, so I didnt' wan't to whack them out of shape. I ended up cutting a 2" wide x 10" long section out of the floor, and creating a nice bead rolled patch to go back in there...

Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: S/ST 3040] #187489
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My SB 727/CSR fits my Barracuda without modifications.(to the car)





You wanna hear a good/weird one?
I have heard some techs fail the CSR shields if they have stickers on them. Anybody else hear anything about stickers/decals and composite shields? Is there anything in the rulebook about it, or does it void the inspection certificate?


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Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #187490
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I hope not, because mine came with a big CSR sticker on it right from them....

Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: dizuster] #187491
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I hope not, because mine came with a big CSR sticker on it right from them....




Mine too!!!!!!!!!




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Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #187492
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They have never said poo to me about anything, they hardly even look at my car..


Guess it looks good enough , you should see some of the cars running here , and very "fast" cars


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Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #187493
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I have heard some techs fail the CSR shields if they have stickers on them.


isn't the SFI std printed on a sticker & stuck to the side of them? it is on my shield, i made the tech inspecter get on his hands & knees to read the sfi #.

Re: CSR SuperShield...... details ? [Re: rebel] #187494
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just installin one on my -68 Charger
no way it will fit without a big
or lowering the rear mount about 1/2"




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