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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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05/24/15 10:51 PM
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Congrats on the new best ! I hope its no big problem with your oil pressure. Ron Thanks Ron. I have Matts heads almost done so hopefully I can dive into mine later tomorrow.
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Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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05/25/15 12:22 AM
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How hot does it get during a pass? Nice gains
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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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05/25/15 12:59 AM
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How hot does it get during a pass? Nice gains . I only got info from one pass as my trigger switch was messing up. I gained about 6 degrees during that pass and was reading 5-5.5 on the O2. I have an 850 alcohol card with 150 jets all around. I am going to try leaning it out some more if all checks out ok. A couple of plugs were wet when I checked hem last night. This thing came alive about 1000 foot like it cleaned the plugs. If all looks well I will pull the oil pan and install a HV pump
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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05/25/15 12:03 PM
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Good luck figuring it out, mine would be 25 psi hot with 10-30 oil. It ran for five years that way. I switched to 15-40 and it would be 30-32 at idle.
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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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05/25/15 01:04 PM
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Mine right now is lower than that after a pass. I'll get her up some
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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05/25/15 02:06 PM
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Haulin the mail for sure what does it weigh and what was the air like that day
In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's
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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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05/25/15 02:20 PM
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I had 55psi oil pressure going down track and 20@idle with my 408 using hv melling and 15/50 amsoil. no tubing. maybe 50 passes, some street in 8yrs run time. bearings were iffy, but no major failure.
when you tubed your block, did you block the oil passage to the other bank/lifter galley? I had an issue with my block and finding the correct lifter that wouldn't uncover the oil galleys while the lifter was on the nose of the cam. the issue was not with the oil band, but the skirt right above the roller/wheel. I tried crane race lifters at $880 and comps at $550. both had tall skirts and would dump oil on lift. had to use PBM/Morel lifters. the dr/side bank was the worst. hope this helps This is the 2nd major rebuild with this same block and its been tubed since new. The other side is blocked with a pipe plug. Both build had standard oil pumps since I had the issue with the high volume pump years ago. The solid lifter engine had LOTS of runs during those 3 years and the bearing looked pretty good but I did have the crank polished. The roller lifter in this engine are solid body Comp Cams.
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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05/25/15 02:29 PM
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Haulin the mail for sure what does it weigh and what was the air like that day Air was 1550 corrected altitude at 6:45 pm and got better but during the long oil down clean-up the humidity started jumping up. My Duster with me in the seat is right around 2800-2850 pounds. I'm leaning out the carb right now from 150's to 146 jets. I am also going to install a set of 3922 Autolite plugs as it was suggested I try 3911's. I ran the 3922's for years. Leak-down on the driver-side is so-so and I want to fire it up and do another leak-down test. Also changing out the needle and seat in the carb as it sat all Winter. Alcohol has a way of ruining good parts.
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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05/25/15 03:30 PM
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I Like the Ar3932 or even the 35 seems to cold starts better on e85 .with no et change
In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's
5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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05/25/15 03:37 PM
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You have one of the fastest eddy head smb I have seen...hats off to you and your hard work
In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's
5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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You have one of the fastest eddy head smb I have seen...hats off to you and your hard work Thanks but lots of guys have these heads working pretty good now. This set still has the stock rocker-pushrod location and I hope to move it over for some much needed area on the next set I do.
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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You have one of the fastest eddy head smb I have seen...hats off to you and your hard work Yeah, I would like John to do my old brodix junk but just cant find the heart to mess with them anymore.
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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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congrats on the new best. sounds like it makes more steam than my 408 did with ported indy heads. Thanks Dave. I now have a set Of Indy heads sitting here that were previously ported and flow pretty good on the intake side but the exhaust numbers are low and very turbulent. I hope to get maybe 15-20 more on the intake side too as the air speed is maxing out my gauge at 401fps the whole way across the short-turn. That tells me its begging for more area.
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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So what have you found out about your oil pressure  Holy heck oldtimer its almost 8:30pm and I didn't eat yet. Take it easy on me. OK after my 3 mile morning walk I removed my driver side spark plugs (3911's) and installed (4) 3922's as that was all I had. Changed the jets from 150's to 146's and installed 2 new needle and seats in the carb, filled the tank and fired it up. 70 pounds of pressure on start-up. Ran for about 20 minutes with my lean out ball valve open and got it up to 165 degrees. Smoke out of the driver side seemed much better but pressure was down to 20 pounds. Shut it down and drained the oil and cut the Wix racing filter apart for checking. Fund a few shinny flakes but i mean a few. Oil seemed somewhat alcohol contaminated to me. I am going to find some 10-40 or maybe even 20-50 tomorrow and try that before I remove the pan to change the oil pump. Most of the leak-down numbers are in 6-8 percent but a couple are 15%. Will do compression test after I change the oil.
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: New best with the 408 but not without some issues
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05/25/15 11:58 PM
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So what have you found out about your oil pressure Holy heck oldtimer its almost 8:30pm and I didn't eat yet. Take it easy on me. OK after my 3 mile morning walk I removed my driver side spark plugs (3911's) and installed (4) 3922's as that was all I had. Changed the jets from 150's to 146's and installed 2 new needle and seats in the carb, filled the tank and fired it up. 70 pounds of pressure on start-up. Ran for about 20 minutes with my lean out ball valve open and got it up to 165 degrees. Smoke out of the driver side seemed much better but pressure was down to 20 pounds. Shut it down and drained the oil and cut the Wix racing filter apart for checking. Fund a few shinny flakes but i mean a few. Oil seemed somewhat alcohol contaminated to me. I am going to find some 10-40 or maybe even 20-50 tomorrow and try that before I remove the pan to change the oil pump. Most of the leak-down numbers are in 6-8 percent but a couple are 15%. Will do compression test after I change the oil. I was just curious.. I have a belief that someone is changing the hardness of the springs.. as soon as the temp comes up the pressure starts to drop.. it still shows fine at 70 cold.. even with thin oil good luck... congrats on the NB
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