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Fan shroud with champion radiator? #1832931
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Curious what others used for fan shroud with 22" champion radiator? 70 road runner 440 bought a year one #fs8328 for 70 to 73 b body , not even close, I'm sure it's the radiator, after market but others must have incounted this fit problem? Maybe give me the radiator guy name from our board and I just buy a stock replacement?, bought the brackets and all but the shroud doesn't sit right blocks access to tran lines and drain

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Where are tanks on the rad , top bottom or sides ?

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While I don't discount the benefits of having a shroud not all applications require one. I have had quite a few cars and trucks without them and they didn't overheat. I don't run one on my Savoy with it's current stroker and radiator combo and it cools very well now since I got my pulley and fan situation under control twocents
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John tanks top and bottom, Gus I appreciate your in put also, need to get this thing running so will skip the shroud and see how we do thanks guys

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If the shroud will bolt up except drain and trans lines can you relieve those areas? A careful cut with jig saw or sawsall may fix it.

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Originally Posted By ahy
If the shroud will bolt up except drain and trans lines can you relieve those areas? A careful cut with jig saw or sawsall may fix it.


This is what I would do , with an engine that is almost 100 cubes larger you are going to need all the cooling help you can get with that narrow radiator.

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Ok then let's nip this in the bud, I'd rather buy a better radiator to keep this 544 6 pack cool, so which is my best choice for 70 road runner , no a/c or power steering just alternator with March pulley serpentine kit and new clutch fan, keeping in mind the opening in the radiator support brace is only 22" wide, do I want a 4 row be cool or a griffen? Lower hose is on driver side upper hose on pass side, it has a new cope built 727 which I planned to run trans lines to radiator out to b&m trans cooler back to radiator then back to trans. Just want to do this one time, any advice or part# radiator would be appreciated thank you.

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I have had good luck with the Mancini aluminum "muscle car" radiator and matching custom shroud. In a '70 E with 496 and AC. From what I have seen it has more ~100 HP more cooling vs the Champion. I run the 26".

It may work if everything is just right with 22"... HV water pump slightly overdriven, big fan and shroud, tuneup just right ect. Its a lot easier to do with 26" though.

http://www.manciniracing.com/manciniracing27.html

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Just because my opening in the radiator support brace is only 22" opening does that mean I can use a 26"? Would the 2" on both sides create a problem as no air would be pulled through because of the restricted opening in the brace? Thank you for helping me, in your car is the opening also 26" or 22"?

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Installing a 26" radiator in a 22" opening will require drilling at least 2 extra mount holes. Part of the added width of the 26" core will be blocked but not all... it still helps to install the 26" radiator in most models.

To get full flow through the 26" you have two choices. 1) simply cut out the sheet metal that blocks the core... perhaps install some tily of edge or trim to make it neat 2) remove the 22" core side shield/bulkhead (usually one side only) and install the 26" version. Based on quick check, Y1 has the full core support for the 26" radiator and I did not see any individual side pieces (checked Goodmark and Sherman).

https://www.yearone.com/Catalog/chrysler.b.body/body/radiator-.-core-supports-_-brackets

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thank you, that's a lot of checking you did for me, I may just order the mancini one you suggested and open up the brace opening a little on each side, this 544 6 pak is going to want some air.

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Originally Posted By ahy
Installing a 26" radiator in a 22" opening will require drilling at least 2 extra mount holes. Part of the added width of the 26" core will be blocked but not all... it still helps to install the 26" radiator in most models.

To get full flow through the 26" you have two choices. 1) simply cut out the sheet metal that blocks the core... perhaps install some tily of edge or trim to make it neat 2) remove the 22" core side shield/bulkhead (usually one side only) and install the 26" version. Based on quick check, Y1 has the full core support for the 26" radiator and I did not see any individual side pieces (checked Goodmark and Sherman).

https://www.yearone.com/Catalog/chrysler.b.body/body/radiator-.-core-supports-_-brackets
website says built to customer specs, was there a long lead time before you got one?

Re: Fan shroud with champion radiator? [Re: meepmeep70] #1833823
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I have a 26 inch champion radiator installed in place of the original 22 inch radiator and with some neat cutting it fits perfectly and work great! I adapted the original fan shroud to it as well.

Stu

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thanks Stu, what did you do your trimming with?

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Originally Posted By meepmeep70
thanks Stu, what did you do your trimming with?


A die grinder with a cutting wheel worked well!

Do you want to see any photos??

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since you offered up,please..

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Ok i will get you a few shots uploaded in an hour or so>

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thank you Stu, looks very nice, trans cooler mounted nicely also.

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Originally Posted By meepmeep70
thank you Stu, looks very nice, trans cooler mounted nicely also.


One of the best additions i did was putting in the Champion radiator and 190 thermostat. The other day i sat in dead stop traffic for over two hours and the car never overheated a bit. Now that was in 70 degree temps but still just idling for that long was pretty darn good i thought.


If you saw once you cut the larger area out than its it nice to roll the edge too so its not sharp.

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