I've seen many Mega block 528 crate motors running 12's in E and B Bodies. By the same token I've seen many 10 second 340 A bodies. Why are you guys so afraid of more competition? Yes it would be alot easier to get in the money if there are only 10-20 cars in the class then it would be if there is a field of 40 cars or more. If the class doesn't generate enough interest it will disapear like many before it.

I just feel this is a budget class and a $2500 block before machining doesnt seem very budget friendly. Its also a matter of the snow ball effect, Let in the Mega block then way not a KB block or W9 heads.

That would kill the class just as fast.

it already looks like a case of ballot box stuffing to me there aren't that many people with megablocks that are interested in heads up racing. the reason for keeping stock blocks should be for the sake of parity and the ability to tech the class. if your so hopped up on running a mega block, put a good set of heads on it and step up to extreme street and let it rip. I've got a feeling that any of these megablock cars can't keep up with some of the established stock block cars, so why bother. It's an entry level class keep it that way.

jeff r

What are W9 heads? Are they like a W2 Small block head?
I think you should allow any NA motor under the hood. To get cars in the field but try and match them up by adding weight or limiting tire. I would like to run in the class but I can't afford to build another motor. I can afford to add Weight and buy different tires.

I would like to see a weight deduction for leafsprings in extreme

It does not mater how many times you change the rules someone is always going to COMPLAIN no mater what some people just do not want to come up to today standers in perfomance parts there still stuck in the 70 no r block then try to find me a stock bore 340 4 bolt main there is none thank you lets going racing and have some fun

What are the show dates for Englishtown?

it already looks like a case of ballot box stuffing to me there aren't that many people with megablocks that are interested in heads up racing. the reason for keeping stock blocks should be for the sake of parity and the ability to tech the class. if your so hopped up on running a mega block, put a good set of heads on it and step up to extreme street and let it rip. I've got a feeling that any of these megablock cars can't keep up with some of the established stock block cars, so why bother. It's an entry level class keep it that way.

jeff r



Jeff hit on a good point. Ben might want to revisit the poll and see if they will put down their names and isp will show so we don't have a bogus poll. I am all for having the masses heard but I know that we will have atleast 10-20 cars at the first show with the rules the way they are. Remember the word entry level. I don't consider megablocks to be an entry level steet class rule. Sounds more in the level of an extreme street level build up.

Greg Van Hoose

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hi Greg whats new ? thanks again for supplying the plaques(spelling) for indy and also thanks for the shirt

jeff r

It's clear a bunch of you guys don't want any serious competition. You would prefer to run against stock slant sixes.
It is alot more even to allow a naturally aspirated mega block run in Muscle Street than to make them run against supercharged,turbo and nitrous cars in Xtreme street.
But everyone has their own opinion. I have read the rules of both these classes very close and I did not see anything about MS being an entry level class. What I did read in the first line of the description is that it is a non-power adder class. Xtreme street says in the first line that it is a power adder class.

Charger, I race in the faster class anyways so your not a threat of competition to me. But i've been racing heads up mopar stuff for a while and I think I understand that the rules makers want good fast racing, but also want a defined line between the two classes. just because somebody only runs 12's with a mega block doesn't meen he should get to race with the STOCK SLANT SIXES it just meens that they havn't acquired enough knowledge to make it faster. then after they raced it for awhile and learned how to make it faster the rules makers don't want to have to tell them that they can't use that block anymore.
by the way how many races do you think you might show up to before anybody would consider changing rules for such a small contingent, some of us have seen this before where the squeeky wheel was never going to show up anyways.
I'm not trying to be confrontational and definitely don't want this post to turn into an argument and get locked down but don't start throwing little jabs at the people who've seen this before and are just looking for a successfull racing venue and take this seriously.
also they (rules makers) are looking for rules that are easy to police and control, without having to have a NHRA style teardown for a tech session.
jeff r

I don't think the megablock is going to make much difference in Muscle street. The other restrictions on external oiling and the mandated use of heads that won't properly support that large of an engine will minimize any gains from a larger engine anyhow. Give me Dwayne's 451 and a nicely set up A body and I'll take my chances...

What happened to the idea of a street drive before the race to weed out the fake street cars? While we're at it, lets make the weight break 4000lbs

hey Tony what's up? still want that set of rods? let me know , I've got alot of time on my hands right now.

jeff r

OK heres my take on this. I have been following alot of heads up racing for the past 8 years, even though I haven't competed I can say that I THINK the Mega block/Rblock controversy WILL have a snowball effect. Every Heads up Org. KOS, NMCA, NSCA all run into the same problem. It has happened in Super Street, Drag Radial, Pro Street was the biggest one. Because the aftermarket blocks can make bigger cubic inches which can be an advantage makes it tough to police it without pumping the engine(how many people own one), or tear down. I really do think if you really want to make this work first thing you need to do is find out who is planning on making what races, and take their opinion seriously. Not saying to make the decision off of just them though. This ahs a chance to work if you can get the Mopar guys away from the numbers correct show cars, or bracket racing.

Hey Jeff, whats up buddy! Wish you were a little closer, I can't seem to find much time these days. I still want em, but no big hurry on my end (hopefully not yours either). Any new plans for the Dart this winter??

i dont know what the big debate is about the blocks for. Just make it 416" for small blocks and 500" for big blocks.
And who cares what kinda block you have if you have a non oem block you will be giving yourself a weight peanlty.
And probably 99% of the guys on here are just talking anyway. i follow the KOS how many cars??? how about the NMCA etc... All these events have how many mopars that are competive????

Bill May and Andy Mayes and Leon Try to compete but are always a couple steps behind. I would love to see some MOPARS that were capable of competeing but it just never happens. I just remeber Bruce Lagroy, Tim Davis did well who am I missing??????

I just dont want to see you guys make the rules to restrictive and have 10 cars show up and this peter out like the KOS events. Most types of rules for classes always have CU IN limitation not a block limitaion.

I say forget the oem block stuff and just do cubic inches How many guys do you know that have 500" mega blocks with INDY EZ heads in a small tire car on leafs???? And if you do will they show up and race it?????? Or R blocks that are 416" with the smaller heads most guys with this type of block are runnin it in races cars not streeet cars. Well this just my

And my opinion and you know what they say about opinions.........