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Re: bushing lifter bores on a sb [Re: mopar dave] #1811455
04/25/15 11:48 AM
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The main point is this--do all the magic oil stuff you want and an old dude that lives in the trailer park ( no offense) and works at the mill and has zero $$ to toss around--will take the slant 6 car he drives to work everyday and win many of the bracket races he enters because he is paying attention to what matters and can drive--Oil Magic guys are just third round Ducks for him

Re: bushing lifter bores on a sb [Re: ] #1811474
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Originally Posted By crabman173
The main point is this--do all the magic oil stuff you want and an old dude that lives in the trailer park ( no offense) and works at the mill and has zero $$ to toss around--will take the slant 6 car he drives to work everyday and win many of the bracket races he enters because he is paying attention to what matters and can drive--Oil Magic guys are just third round Ducks for him


I agree, and it's kinda hard to wipe the smile off your face when that happens. grin The OP in his other thread states he's planning on 7500. I would think the crossover is all he would need with the 1 main to dr galley plug.


Yeah, it's got a smallblock.
Re: bushing lifter bores on a sb [Re: mopar dave] #1811502
04/25/15 01:35 PM
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What head I ask is going to do him any good at 7500 in a bracket engine? Why plan an RPM level--see what cam will make the car 60 ft hard and be right for car weight and the compression ratio--oopos! Too much compression is a bummer in a small block with 10 head bolts better plan on head gasket replacement often--now THAT is a weak spot on a small block not the darn oiling! Then with 7500 you need really lite valves--titanium retainers, PAC springs and very light strong rods and pistons--and Real expensive rockers-- all very expensive stuff OR--you can just hang a set of lite pistons on stock rods on stock crank and turn it 6500 range and have a CHEAP FAST reliable engine
that will make hundreds of laps over years with zero issues
OK 7500 RPM--a head that can make use of that on a small block is not cheap --and when you dyno them 6500 vs. 7500 is the extra cost WORTH the extra HP vs. the lost reliability?????
It is fun to twist the guts out of an engine--I always thought JR Johnson was an Azz but he said one thing I loved--He said--Give me an engine that will never quit going upstairs and I will whip anybody--He had a need for that--average bracket racer does not
That baby seat in the back of the slant 6 car is what hurts the most at the turn off road smile

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Re: bushing lifter bores on a sb [Re: ] #1811509
04/25/15 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted By crabman173
What head I ask is going to do him any good at 7500 in a bracket engine? Why plan an RPM level--see what cam will make the car 60 ft hard and be right for car weight and the compression ratio--oopos! Too much compression is a bummer in a small block with 10 head bolts better plan on head gasket replacement often--now THAT is a weak spot on a small block not the darn oiling! Then with 7500 you need really lite valves--titanium retainers, PAC springs and very light strong rods and pistons--and Real expensive rockers-- all very expensive stuff OR--you can just hang a set of lite pistons on stock rods on stock crank and turn it 6500 range and have a CHEAP FAST reliable engine
that will make hundreds of laps over years with zero issues
OK 7500 RPM--a head that can make use of that on a small block is not cheap --and when you dyno them 6500 vs. 7500 is the extra cost WORTH the extra HP vs. the lost reliability?????
It is fun to twist the guts out of an engine--I always thought JR Johnson was an Azz but he said one thing I loved--He said--Give me an engine that will never quit going upstairs and I will whip anybody--He had a need for that--average bracket racer does not
That baby seat in the back of the slant 6 car is what hurts the most at the turn off road smile


You make some statements I sure dont agree with... a bracket racer
just trying to go faster wont win..they dont care about winning..
wrong... and being that you only want to turn 6200.. well thats you..
you can build a VERY dependable engine that turns higher.. I have
a 395ci that turns 8200 every pass.. and its been doing it for years
and still is... SB like the rpm to make the torque... but as usual
you have to build them for rpm... by the way.. my car is dead on
and does it all day long
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Re: bushing lifter bores on a sb [Re: ] #1811620
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just want to clear something up. i'm not a bracket racer. ET chaser at best. last pump gas combo(408) went 10.35@130 in a 3300# car. just freshening the engine with some improvements. the heads are indy 360-1 that flowed 325@.700 and should improve once I get them back from Dwayne Welder. I use cometic gaskets and this build is getting ARP head studs. pac springs will be in use, but i'm told 7500 is limit on steel retainers.

Re: bushing lifter bores on a sb [Re: mopar dave] #1811625
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408DUST turns his 10K plus

Re: bushing lifter bores on a sb [Re: mopar dave] #1811626
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Titanium retainers will amaze you--they make springs last and give you extra RPM free --with the bonus of protection from float etc That combo is a candidate for first class build no doubt--sounds awesome! Good Luck!
Indy bought out the old Batton w2 aluminum core boxes etc and made changes to come up with the Indy SB heads way back years ago If you ever see the Battons for sale PASS they are sponges and will not hold water. Any that will are on engines--ones in the flea market won't

Re: bushing lifter bores on a sb [Re: Quicktree] #1812181
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[quote=Quicktree]408DUST turns his 10K plus [/quote

Not that high but I do whip it a little lol and with a thermoquad ]with cast iron heads...

Re: bushing lifter bores on a sb [Re: 408Dust] #1812229
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Originally Posted By 408Dust
[quote=Quicktree]408DUST turns his 10K plus [/quote

Not that high but I do whip it a little lol and with a thermoquad ]with cast iron heads...


What kind of RPM are you turning
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