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whiplash break in! #1807654
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got the 440 upper end freshend up the last 2 weekends.

swapped on a set of rebuilt 452 heads with the Hughes springs,hedman hedders, 3" pipes/3" muffs.

test drove and runs great no issues. boogie

this weekend I swapped in the hughes whiplash cam, lifters, t-chain,t-cover, M/T valave covers, cleaned up the wire harness down the VC area.

fired it up first spin, run for 30 mins to break cam in,shut down to cool down some, drove 10 miles with no issues.

let it cool down and changed oil out for the Amsoil high zinc 100% full synthetic 10w40 oil with amsoil large filter.

drove 35 miles at different speeds none over 65 mph. shut down over night, fired right up this morning for a 40 mile ride to work no issues.

the q-jet is gong to the shelf and the holley 650 dbl pumper is going on for fine tunning after work today.

man I am stoked..it is a nasty sounding beast now but drives rather tame on the street like advertised.

HUGHES ENGINES bow

Re: whiplash break in! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1807676
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Sounds good. I would go for a larger carb though. Maybe an 850 or at least a 750.


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Re: whiplash break in! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1807759
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pics or it didn't happen Scratch.


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I will get a pic up tonight..I think I got the phone/email/save jpg/and new steps to posting on the board.

I do have a holley 6213 800cfm spredbore dbl pumper, But with the stock MH cam/manifolds the 650 really worked great and felt like it was "just right" but a little rich.

Re: whiplash break in! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1807943
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i think he meant "vids, or it didn't happen" we can't hear the sounds, with a pic. come on, man, you're holding out on the brothers.... grin


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Re: whiplash break in! [Re: Golden-Arm] #1808078
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Originally Posted By Golden-Arm
i think he meant "vids, or it didn't happen" we can't hear the sounds, with a pic. come on, man, you're holding out on the brothers.... grin

iagree drive

Re: whiplash break in! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1808095
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Definitely a video.
Getting me excited to get mine together Scratch.

Re: whiplash break in! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1808099
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You're killing me scratch. May I ask what valve springs you used?

Re: whiplash break in! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1808174
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Good job Scratch! You got me beat by a mile. I broke my Whiplash in 5 months ago but I haven't driven the truck yet. It is ready now though, well almost. Front end alignment Friday, then I am on the street.

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Hey Scratch, what size cam did you go with?

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well this facebook lurker need to catch me in the act for a pic/vid.

I don't have parts to tune the q-jet and low vac is not helping it at all. drivable but got watch the idle in gear when stoped.

it is slow to return to idle, then the vac will pull the needles down and drop rpm fast. so..

need to get the holley on, I have it already set up with the the PV in the correct ball park and returned the carb to specs to start tunning it in from there.

the cam is the 440 flat tappet whiplash cam. used the Hughes matching spring, pro-gear DR t-chain/gears,milodon t-cover/timming tab.

all superformance gaskets, which are very nice.

I think I will save up for the RTR firecore dist/wires next. BUT most likely NEED tires next. drive

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Re: whiplash break in! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1808487
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I bought a Whiplash for the 360 from the Doba and it's in the motor but not in the car. I'm thinking about putting it into the 80 PU till I get the Doba done. Looking forward to a listen. Love that cam.

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Scratch, what are you pulling for vacuum at idle?

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Originally Posted By tmef
Scratch, what are you pulling for vacuum at idle?


GOOD ? , GOT ME?

I am on lunch and swapping the q-jet off for the holley. then after work I will put a vac gauge on and recheck timming/rpm.

its in the 800-900 rpm range and fluctuating on idle due to power piston spring...what I thin any ways.

I let you know tonight.

440whiplash 1.jpeg440whiplash 2.jpeg
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Re: whiplash break in! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1808682
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Holley fits in a matter on mins. got it running and dialed in enough to keep a idle...mucho better already. can blip the throttle enough to tip the 2ndarys in with no delay.

should be a few more mins after work and another test ride.

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Originally Posted By wedgeheaded
I bought a Whiplash for the 360 from the Doba and it's in the motor but not in the car. I'm thinking about putting it into the 80 PU till I get the Doba done. Looking forward to a listen. Love that cam.


I think you will like it.

I know I would be real happy with that car and a 360 whiplash.

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Looks really nice Scratch.
Wish I had my BB in something. Some day tho', some day.
May I ask, "What is the part # for that wiplash cam?"
I have an old motorhome 360 I'm wanting to put in my 76 and a good cam wouldn't hurt.


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Re: whiplash break in! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1808914
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Originally Posted By scratchnfotraction


I am on lunch and swapping the q-jet off for the holley.

I wish I could wrench on my truck on break! wrench realcrazy

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I am running the 318/5.2 whiplash roller cam HUG-HMR0814ALN-7

my 440 flat tappet whiplash cam HUG-SMC3245BL

I used comp 901-16 springs with the whiplash roller.

I used Hughes springs matched to the 440 whiplash cam.

I plan to run a 360 whiplash roller cam HUG-HMR2228ALN-7 in a 360 headed 318 with comp 901-16 springs.
adding a 2500 TC

best thing on the flat tappet whiplash cams is they are 165$ each.

my first engine build in 92' was around 2500$. since then I have used 300$ JY engines with a cam swap and have had more fun with 3 JY engines for about the same amount of $ since 02'

400$ on the rollers but no break in woes with them. now that roller 318/360 are 20+ yrs old they are cheap enough to play with.

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Originally Posted By redraptor
Originally Posted By scratchnfotraction


I am on lunch and swapping the q-jet off for the holley.

I wish I could wrench on my truck on break! wrench realcrazy


only way to get a jump on the dark and skeeters.

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