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Srt4 will not move #1781856
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I just bought a 2005 srt4 and when it's running it will not move. I can't put it into gear with the shifter with out pushing the clutch in which I think is kind of odd. No grinding no noise what so ever. If it was a broken axle the speedo would move but the speedo does not move.

Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: 79machocharger] #1781857
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Could be a broken input shaft

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Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: GTX MATT] #1781858
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That's kind of what I'm thinking. I'm going to bring it back our garage and put it up on the lift and if I can see the axle move on the drivers side at all. I'm kind of hoping it was just an axle and not the input shaft. Would I be better off fixing my tranny or finding a used one if it was the input shaft.

Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: 79machocharger] #1781859
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Fix the stuff yourself. There are 2 or 3 good reference vids on YouTube and srt4forums.com has invaluable info. You can rebuild the trans without removing from the car as well....obviously not replacing the clutch. The transmissions in these cars are notorious for many problems. Good luck

Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: 79machocharger] #1781860
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I read this 3 times..you mean with the eng off you cant shift into the gears with the clutch pedal up?..

Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: moparjim79] #1781861
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Actually I think I might give it a try.
Thanks for the info.

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While the car is running it I can shift it into gear , any gears for that matter with the clutch pedal pushed or not and the does nothing. Won't move and does not make a sound or even try to move.

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Just pulled ours out..it pops out of third gear..installed a shift extender and lasted a year..now it vibrates..time for overhaul

Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: 79machocharger] #1781864
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Watch the vid of the guy gutting the trans in about 2 mins w pneumatic tools. It's detailed enough to inspire immediate confidence. When these cars are working, they are great! Good luck

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I'm going to check out the youtube videos and what it entails. It would be nice to learn how to work on it.

Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: 79machocharger] #1781866
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If you CAN put it into gear with it running and not pushing clutch pedal your problem is simple. You are probably just moving the lever and not shifting the trans for one of several reasons. Several things happen commonly to these. One of them is the shift cable bushings wear out to the point they disappear. Google "booger srt4 shifter bushings" for better ones cheap and more info. Easy to diagnose have someone shift it while you watch what the cables and lever on trans do under hood they are on the drivers side ish on top of trans might have to remove airbox and or pipe maybe battery tray i cannot recall right now. Might be the bushings in car on the shifter itself as well. If all that looks good and its moving the lever fully then another thing that happens is the selector itself breaks. So the lever moves but nothing is happening in trans. This too is common easy to see and can be done without removing trans i am almost sure it just goes in from top. If you broke a fork it would only affect certain gears. If you broke an input shaft or anything in the trans you would know it would be aweful noisy. Think about it if you broke the input shaft the clutch etc would be making a ton of noise like the car was coming apart depending where it broke. I bet it is one of the two things i listed both cheap enough and easy to fix.


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Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: moparjimbo] #1781867
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If you CAN put it into gear with it running and not pushing clutch pedal your problem is simple. You are probably just moving the lever and not shifting the trans for one of several reasons. Several things happen commonly to these. One of them is the shift cable bushings wear out to the point they disappear. Google "booger srt4 shifter bushings" for better ones cheap and more info. Easy to diagnose have someone shift it while you watch what the cables and lever on trans do under hood they are on the drivers side ish on top of trans might have to remove airbox and or pipe maybe battery tray i cannot recall right now. Might be the bushings in car on the shifter itself as well. If all that looks good and its moving the lever fully then another thing that happens is the selector itself breaks. So the lever moves but nothing is happening in trans. This too is common easy to see and can be done without removing trans i am almost sure it just goes in from top. If you broke a fork it would only affect certain gears. If you broke an input shaft or anything in the trans you would know it would be aweful noisy. Think about it if you broke the input shaft the clutch etc would be making a ton of noise like the car was coming apart depending where it broke. I bet it is one of the two things i listed both cheap enough and easy to fix.




I concour...but I thought he did that already..I would peak under the hood and see the actual levers move or even better, move them by hand into the gears..input shafts are hi tempered steel I thought, to break that alone it sure would make a loud noise..

Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: AARCONV] #1781868
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If you can put it in any gear running without pushing the clutch then it needs a clutch if the shifter is moving and working which is simple to check. Seen it before as it tore the lining off the clutch disc. If it was an axle or broken C/V joint it would grind going in gear and you would feel some resistance because the input shaft would be turning in the trans. Its either the clutch (which I think it is) or the input shaft is broken. I did a few clutches with the exact same problem over the years. Ron

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We took the shifter cables right off at the tranny and put it in gear by hand. I bought the car with this issue and the person I bought it from said there was no loud noises or signs of any thing going right before it happened while he was driving it . It's hard to say for sure, he could be just saying that. He thought it was a shifter cable but I'm pretty sure he was just saying that to sell it easier.

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I put the car on the lift and put it in first gear and the tires started spinning slowly. I could grab the tire and stop it easily

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I'm messing with two shifter levers on top of the tranny and I snapped off the shifter cables and can get one of the levers to click in three different spots but the other lever will not click into any, just goes back and fourth. Should the second lever click in three spots as we'll?

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1st I am not wqell versed on manuals transmission .

But I cant say I ever remember hearing about any breaking or broken shifter issues.

Total clutch failures I've seen plenty of though

Isn't there an inspection plate on the engine side of the trans you can pull to ck for clutch material / debris ?

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The tranny levers look to be working right after watching how it works. I'll look for a inspection hole. I'll also drains my tranny fluid to see if I can see any metal in it.

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I put the car on the lift and put it in first gear and the tires started spinning slowly. I could grab the tire and stop it easily




So then it's going into gear. If you can stop a moving tire, the clutch must be incredibly weak. As in friction material totally gone.

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I put the car on the lift and put it in first gear and the tires started spinning slowly. I could grab the tire and stop it easily




So then it's going into gear. If you can stop a moving tire, the clutch must be incredibly weak. As in friction material totally gone.




Or the LSD is all wore out.


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