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Re: 1050 CFM 4500 VRS. 4150 PERFORMANCE DIFFERENCES
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03/11/15 11:31 AM
03/11/15 11:31 AM
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Mark Whitener
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Could the additional flow be attributed to the intake, seeing as how both style carbs are rated at the same flow number???
There are so many factors, when running a Dom, you are usually increasing plenum volume so unless your adding volume under a 4150, its just not cut and dry answer. Even the same exact intake will have different characteristics. One opened up for a Dom may now have shorter runner lenght and bigger plenum and the engine may or may not like that
On a dyno, the bigger 4500 manifold and dominator carb will almost always make the most power. What runs the fastest at the track may be a different story. Have to be careful w/ manifold volume on a street/strip car. Too much and it'll really hurt the lowend grunt and the little you gain up top will never make up for it. Even my big 572" hemi was really hurt by the larger Indy 426-4 single 4500 manifold versus the Ray Barton single 4500 manifold I had run before. Ran great on the back half, but lost so much in the 60' it was still a tenth off. If I loosened up the converter more, added more gear, more spring pressure for the added rpm, I may have been able to use it...but that's not what I wanted at all.
Ever notice a lot of people run the 4150 Indy manifold w/ a 4500 adapter instead of the 4500 Indy manifold? Only problem w/ using the adapter is it's really tall. The short ones don't work well.
Only way to know is to try one and see, but that's an expensive test. Unless of course you borrow a carb from someone. I'd suggest an adapter for the dominator for your current manifold...if you can fit it.
The issue with intakes are maintaining a relatively fast velocity to keep fuel suspended. Maintaining a homogenous mix allows for even distribution, and more even burn in the combustion chamber. There are some things you can change on the carb to help, annular boosters versus down legs, or in the case of stock annular centers there are better centers to use. These will help even the worst intakes, however the best solution it to use an intake that distributes well and keeps fuel suspended. Rougher surface textures inside the plenum and runners can improve this as well.
Mark Whitener [url=www.racingfuelsystems.com[/url]
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Re: 1050 CFM 4500 VRS. 4150 PERFORMANCE DIFFERENCES
[Re: Mark Whitener]
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03/11/15 02:31 PM
03/11/15 02:31 PM
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Mark, what are your thoughts on supersucker adaptors ? Do you feel they work better on some combinations than others and what is the reasoning behind that ? Mick
69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200# best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft best 60ft 1.36
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Re: 1050 CFM 4500 VRS. 4150 PERFORMANCE DIFFERENCES
[Re: Mark Whitener]
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03/11/15 05:51 PM
03/11/15 05:51 PM
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Thanks Mark I used a 2" supersucker spacer on my victor intake and 950 hp, back to back runs within an hour of each other the car picked up .15 and nearly 2 mph. Strangely enough, i told a guy pitted next to me a couple of weeks later, he went and bought one for his sb chevy and lost power. Mick
69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200# best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft best 60ft 1.36
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