Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: ademon]
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03/11/15 01:09 AM
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This thread is hilarious. It is the equivalent of herding cats. Maybe the OP should have said "Big Blocks ONLY". I think if we really wanted another aftermarket block that is how it would have to go down. THAT is why there aren't any blocks. It has become just too fragmented in our camp for engine choices. I used to think that's what made MOPAR cool, the variety of it all. In cases like this, it's obviously a detriment.
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: 6PAK70CUDA]
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03/11/15 01:26 AM
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Ford has waaaay more variety... FE/sideoiler, Windsor, Cleveland, boss, CJ/SCJ, 385, M, MEL, Romeo and Windsor versions of the SAME 4.6 engine just different enough to not interchange anything cobra 4 valve, coyote... If you ran that same pole on other mopar websites you will get very different results. Like I said this is an old web site with old people stuck in their ways (if it was not in the 77 DC catalog it don't count) so the oldest engine wins even with terrible valve placement, terrible plug placement and a horrible rear main seal
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: 6PAK70CUDA]
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03/11/15 02:12 AM
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This thread is hilarious. It is the equivalent of herding cats. Maybe the OP should have said "Big Blocks ONLY". I think if we really wanted another aftermarket block that is how it would have to go down. THAT is why there aren't any blocks. It has become just too fragmented in our camp for engine choices. I used to think that's what made MOPAR cool, the variety of it all. In cases like this, it's obviously a detriment.
Maybe they could make a new alluminum Dana 60
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: HotRodDave]
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03/11/15 09:04 AM
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How come someone can make duplicates of whatever part they want and sell them at autozone. oreilleys, NAPA... seems they have no issue getting permission from mopar weather they say it is OEM or some new improved doo-dad
As far as the pole goes it seems on here there is a nearly direct/proportionatly, corelation of people wanting blocks to the number of parts in the for sale/wanted sections could some one just look at the for sale parts in all the mopar boards and deduce what would be the best selling block? This is an old-fashion board so naturaly the oldest desighn most antiquated engine is the one most people want [/quot
My comments were based on if a mfg want to produce a block identical to Chryslers and under the Chrysler brand for the purist that wouldn't by an aftermarket brand.If you look at all the Autozone and other suppliers of parts you will see vast differences in the apperence compared to the ones specifically produces for and under the Mopar brand name.Also in cost.Price a aluminium water pump and housing with mopar logo and part number and then price a aftermarket one. With the cost of aftermarket aluminium or iron blocks we may as well buy KB,HPP or Indy and World if they become available.We don't see any other Mfg jumping in and slashing the price.We don't think anyone is anxious to produce a block that would only net them 50% of the existing market pricing.Just the cost of raw materials and labor will not allow that to happen.
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: dakotawilly]
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03/11/15 07:22 PM
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like the poll says,b/rb rules the roost,far more big block racers.no antiquated racers here,well,maybe a few,its just simple numbers not rocket science.at the next bracket race you attend count the big blocks and the small blocks and the hemis gen 2,3 and see the results.all great engines,but majority rules.look just how easy and cheap it is to make 500 or so hp with a big block even using stock type heads.the expense of the gen 3 conversion is way above that alone.nobody should truthfully be surprised unless they were living in a bomb shelter for the last 3 decades....
With 55 or so votes for the BB, and how long this post has been out there, I don't see anyone making anything. I'm guessing DART would want to see 5,500 votes for a new block to even probe further into the subject. It's obvious in this post that there isn't any money to be made.
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: ademon]
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03/11/15 07:36 PM
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like the poll says,b/rb rules the roost,far more big block racers.no antiquated racers here,well,maybe a few,its just simple numbers not rocket science.at the next bracket race you attend count the big blocks and the small blocks and the hemis gen 2,3 and see the results.all great engines,but majority rules.look just how easy and cheap it is to make 500 or so hp with a big block even using stock type heads.the expense of the gen 3 conversion is way above that alone.nobody should truthfully be surprised unless they were living in a bomb shelter for the last 3 decades....
With 55 or so votes for the BB, and how long this post has been out there, I don't see anyone making anything. I'm guessing DART would want to see 5,500 votes for a new block to even probe further into the subject. It's obvious in this post that there isn't any money to be made.
And I'm betting a couple of those guys voted two or more times.
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: dakotawilly]
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03/11/15 08:27 PM
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like the poll says,b/rb rules the roost,far more big block racers.no antiquated racers here,well,maybe a few,its just simple numbers not rocket science.at the next bracket race you attend count the big blocks and the small blocks and the hemis gen 2,3 and see the results.all great engines,but majority rules.look just how easy and cheap it is to make 500 or so hp with a big block even using stock type heads.the expense of the gen 3 conversion is way above that alone.nobody should truthfully be surprised unless they were living in a bomb shelter for the last 3 decades....
Almost every time I go to the drag strip there is only small block mopars there. That is because I am the only person there that races a mopar.
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: D-50]
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03/11/15 10:27 PM
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Almost every time I go to the drag strip there is only small block mopars there. That is because I am the only person there that races a mopar.
^^This for me also
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: slammedR/T]
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03/11/15 10:43 PM
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Very nice collection of both small blocks and big blocks at Pittsburgh raceway park but a lot of the big blocks are already upgraded to mega blocks, Indy, and keith blocks. The small blocks guys are stuck in the 9's and 10's with stock blocks
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: justinp61]
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03/12/15 03:10 AM
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Post this on MMF and LXForum and I bet the votes would at least triple. Won't be BB though, those have dumb stuff like distributors and plug wires.
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: 72Swinger]
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03/12/15 09:14 AM
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I've got four cars sitting in my shop right now. 2 big block RB cars, and 2 360 based cars. I would just like to see some quality parts being made for us for as many applications as we can get!
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: slammedR/T]
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03/12/15 11:00 AM
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Almost every time I go to the drag strip there is only small block mopars there. That is because I am the only person there that races a mopar.
^^This for me also
Nothing but hemis at my local track. Because I'm also the only old Mopar there. Occasionally there will be a few newer challengers/chargers.
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: Eric]
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03/12/15 02:52 PM
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What is tight about paying twice as much for EVERYTHING?
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