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Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car #1765075 02/28/15 10:15 AM 02/28/15 10:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,901 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer OP Too Many Posts
tboomer OP Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,901 United Socialist States of Ame...	Quite some time back I think Mopar Muscle did a project 64 330 Dodge. If I remember correctly they replaced the front and rear bumpers with ones from Larry at Sled City. They knocked 60# off the front bumper alone. Does anyone know what the factory rear bumper weighs? Thanks!! Ted

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: tboomer] #1765076 02/28/15 11:16 AM 02/28/15 11:16 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,827 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,827 MI, usa	I know the 64 Plymouth.I'd bet the rear ones are close, 25 lbs. The Dodge front is way heavier than the Plymouth which is 23 lbs. All the Plymouth brackets together weigh 26 lbs. Again I'll bet the Dodge front is heavier. The carbon fiber brackets shaved 23.5 lbs from mine. Doug 8443588-A2.jpg (201 downloads)

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: dvw] #1765077 02/28/15 11:22 AM 02/28/15 11:22 AM
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Wv68charger top fuel W Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,770 Pa	Quote: I know the 64 Plymouth.I'd bet the rear ones are close, 25 lbs. The Dodge front is way heavier than the Plymouth which is 23 lbs. All the Plymouth brackets together weigh 26 lbs. Again I'll bet the Dodge front is heavier. The carbon fiber brackets shaved 23.5 lbs from mine. Doug What does your car weight Doug?

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: dvw] #1765078 02/28/15 11:47 AM 02/28/15 11:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,901 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer OP Too Many Posts
tboomer OP Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,901 United Socialist States of Ame...	Doug..Those brackets are cool! Did you make them?

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: tboomer] #1765079 02/28/15 12:28 PM 02/28/15 12:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york	The front & rear brackets weigh plenty.I an driving around with 2 front bumper brackets ,one orig,,,,,,one aluminum so I can see the savings 8443658-7.27.14016.jpg (148 downloads) HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: hemi-itis] #1765080 02/28/15 12:29 PM 02/28/15 12:29 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york	This is ALL Fullmetaljackets fault!!!!!!!! HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: Wv68charger] #1765081 02/28/15 12:58 PM 02/28/15 12:58 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,827 MI, usa	Quote: Quote: I know the 64 Plymouth.I'd bet the rear ones are close, 25 lbs. The Dodge front is way heavier than the Plymouth which is 23 lbs. All the Plymouth brackets together weigh 26 lbs. Again I'll bet the Dodge front is heavier. The carbon fiber brackets shaved 23.5 lbs from mine. Doug What does your car weight Doug? Car is 3340 lbs with me (190). My friend made the brackets. We laid the carbon over the stock brackets for the shape. Then trimmed the edges. He's a pretty good plastics guy. They are plenty stiff as I still have steel bumpers. There's an easy 300lbs + lurking in mine with glass bumpers, deck lid, remove one battery, Light wheels, and a aluminum block. But I like my wheels, chrome bumpers and the look of steel body panels. The block is tempting though. Maybe If I can get some more wins this year. It would run pretty good removing 300 lbs. Doug

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: dvw] #1765082 02/28/15 01:08 PM 02/28/15 01:08 PM
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sjs64polara mopar Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 449 Wisconsin	If my memory is correct we lost just shy of 100 lbs changing over the front and rear bumpers to glass and utilizing 1/8 thick aluminum for brackets. My 64 Dodge Polara 500 started out weighing 4200 lbs (with me 225) about 6 years ago. It lost 115 lbs just removing the bucket seats and center console. Current weight is 3550lbs (with me, now 235), bumpers and hood are glass, aluminum bumper brackets, lexan windshield and side windows. Chrome moly ladder bar set up, 10 point chrome moly cage with additional structure bars including funny car head restraint. KB block running a Dana, under the dash is gutted too. I know I could remove more weight by cutting but I like it being all steel with the chrome trim 8443690-wheelsup.jpg (116 downloads)

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: tboomer] #1765083 02/28/15 03:38 PM 02/28/15 03:38 PM
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 485 Central California MoParFish mopar
MoParFish mopar Joined: May 2010 Posts: 485 Central California	Quote: Quite some time back I think Mopar Muscle did a project 64 330 Dodge. If I remember correctly they replaced the front and rear bumpers with ones from Larry at Sled City. They knocked 60# off the front bumper alone. Does anyone know what the factory rear bumper weighs? Thanks!! Ted I just weighed my old set of 64 bumbers on a bathroom scale. Rear-26.5 and front-38. Not sure how accurate the scale is but seems pretty close. I run aluminum front brackets now and saved a bunch but dont have stock ones here to weigh 8443848-20150228_090953_20150228_093523.jpg (88 downloads) Sworn Member Central Valley MoPar Drag Pack. You can reach me at (done-et-chasing@going-rounds.gone)... :-) [img]https://s6.postimg.org/v3mbggksx/SAC16.jpg[/img]image hosting more than 5mb

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: MoParFish] #1765084 02/28/15 03:39 PM 02/28/15 03:39 PM
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MoParFish mopar Joined: May 2010 Posts: 485 Central California	Front 8443851-20150228_091148_20150228_093503.jpg (142 downloads) Sworn Member Central Valley MoPar Drag Pack. You can reach me at (done-et-chasing@going-rounds.gone)... :-) [img]https://s6.postimg.org/v3mbggksx/SAC16.jpg[/img]image hosting more than 5mb

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: MoParFish] #1765085 02/28/15 06:53 PM 02/28/15 06:53 PM
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tboomer OP Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,901 United Socialist States of Ame...	Thanks everyone! I like seeing real results.

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: tboomer] #1765086 02/28/15 08:42 PM 02/28/15 08:42 PM
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fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	MoparFish is correct of course. In my records when I was helping a past acquaintance with his 64' Dodge Polara, the front bumper weighed 37 Lbs exact. Heavy mother since the 65' fronts weigh in the area of 25-6 Lbs.

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1765087 02/28/15 08:46 PM 02/28/15 08:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,901 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer OP Too Many Posts
tboomer OP Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,901 United Socialist States of Ame...	Dude!! You are the one who started this!! J/K...I need this boat into the nines.

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: tboomer] #1765088 02/28/15 08:51 PM 02/28/15 08:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849 F fullmetaljacket master
fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	Me? It was ThumperDart who broke open the Freedom of information act with his Real world weight loss atlas. LOL. I'm just an innocent byslender. I have to now make magnetic signs that read: "Slender Fender" please keep off. I love my real world steel parts. Last edited by fullmetaljacket; 02/28/15 08:52 PM.

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1765089 02/28/15 08:53 PM 02/28/15 08:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,901 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer OP Too Many Posts
tboomer OP Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,901 United Socialist States of Ame...	I forgot about Thumpman...Dom!!!

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: tboomer] #1765090 02/28/15 09:22 PM 02/28/15 09:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849 F fullmetaljacket master
fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	Boy, one question on lightweight parts for early B's and every rock gets turned over.LOL. How many early B-Boyz are on this forum.

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1765091 02/28/15 11:02 PM 02/28/15 11:02 PM
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Polarapete top fuel P Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,751 Graham, WA	I used to be an early B body guy because I graduated from high school in 1964 and in 1997 I found and bought a fairly nice '64 Polara. I showed it off to my high school chums at the reunion...and was ignored ...I proceeded to pound money into the car making it a nice cruiser. Fresh 440, a fresh '65 spec 727, Dana 60, American wheels, etc. Drove it to Reno for "Hot August Nights" 2 years in a row and it became a "garage queen" cause I wanted to race and I would have to undo all that I had done to make it a cruiser. Sold it in 2010 to a man from Chicago and he loves it. So yes there is a soft spot in my heart for early Bs 1986 Dodge Ramcharger 440 2wd, Bracket Racer Under Construction 1998 Ram 2500 QuadCab, new daily driver. 2008 Honda Element 2014 Carry-On 7x14 Cargo Trailer

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1765092 03/01/15 12:15 AM 03/01/15 12:15 AM
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 485 Central California MoParFish mopar
MoParFish mopar Joined: May 2010 Posts: 485 Central California	Quote: How many early B-Boyz are on this forum. One of my earliest memories was the tail lights of a 64 Dodge peeking out of my Great Grandparents garage. Never forgot and knew Id end up with one someday. 8444312-7890388-getmedia-1-1_20140522_213840.jpg (67 downloads) Sworn Member Central Valley MoPar Drag Pack. You can reach me at (done-et-chasing@going-rounds.gone)... :-) [img]https://s6.postimg.org/v3mbggksx/SAC16.jpg[/img]image hosting more than 5mb

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: MoParFish] #1765093 03/01/15 12:41 AM 03/01/15 12:41 AM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,827 MI, usa	How could I no be? My Dad was a stylist at Chrysler. His first designs were the "fratzog" Dodge emblem, Front end and tail lights on the 63 Plymouth and on to the 64 Plymouth. I'm very proud of his early B Body designs. Doug

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: dvw] #1765094 03/01/15 01:14 AM 03/01/15 01:14 AM
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fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	Probably some of the most beautiful time transcending designs. Glad those 63's 64's 65's made the cut. The 62's have grown on me for sure. A family member of mine was one of the engineers involved behind the Birds and Daytona testing in the wind tunnels.

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: MoParFish] #1765095 03/01/15 01:56 PM 03/01/15 01:56 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,954 Blairsden, CA T Triggerfish top fuel
Triggerfish top fuel T Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,954 Blairsden, CA	Does someone repop the aluminum brackets or did you make yours? Also, since AAR sold, who makes the best fiberglass bumpers? 8444856-Belvedererear2.jpg (73 downloads)

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: Triggerfish] #1765096 03/01/15 02:03 PM 03/01/15 02:03 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,827 MI, usa	They're still around. Stinger Fiberglass. They have 64 Plymouth bumpers, hood, deck lid. 64 Dodge front bumper. Doug

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: Triggerfish] #1765097 03/01/15 02:08 PM 03/01/15 02:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,901 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer OP Too Many Posts
tboomer OP Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,901 United Socialist States of Ame...	I have a rear bumper here that was made by Larry at Sled City. Got it from a member here and it is pretty darned nice. Talked to Larry and he is making me a front bumper as they have none in stock. If it is as nice as the back one I will be happy! No help on the brackets.

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: hemi-itis] #1765098 03/01/15 02:53 PM 03/01/15 02:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york	Quote: The front & rear brackets weigh plenty.I an driving around with 2 front bumper brackets ,one orig,,,,,,one aluminum so I can see the savings Paging Jenny Craig,,,,,,need your little scale to weigh these flyweights I want to get down to 3800 lbs LOL!! HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1765099 03/01/15 03:16 PM 03/01/15 03:16 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,134 OHIO THE HEART OF IT ALL 64hemi330sedan super stock
64hemi330sedan super stock Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,134 OHIO THE HEART OF IT ALL	Quote: Boy, one question on lightweight parts for early B's and every rock gets turned over.LOL. How many early B-Boyz are on this forum. im one! my 65 weighs 3306 without me in it.it has no light weight parts except the hood scoop which is aluminum.im dying to scale my new 64 to see what it weighs.i just need to get it finished. with help from my friends I have made many parts out of light weight materials.and have removed a lot of extra stuff off the car. full metal and dvw I have used several of your ideas.hope you don't mind.

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: 64hemi330sedan] #1765100 03/01/15 05:46 PM 03/01/15 05:46 PM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,002 Oregon	My '65 was 3400 lbs in this picture without the hood, right side fender and bumper. Add those back in and it is a little over 3500. Interesting thing is that this car has a 50/50 weight distribution when it is complete. Engine is fairly lightweight stroker low deck with batt in the trunk. It also has a Dana 60, big rear tires, weight bar in the trunk, etc. 8445251-scales.jpg (76 downloads)

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: 64hemi330sedan] #1765101 03/01/15 09:38 PM 03/01/15 09:38 PM
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fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	Jenny Craig reporting: I don't mind at all since that is the reason we posted the tricks and whistles so that some on here can take it to the next level, especially on Early B's. But it can be applied to almost any other body style to a certain degree. I used to be highly secretive, even with fellow Moparites back in the day since it was a relatively slow grudge car. LOL. Wait till you'll see what's in store pretty soon. Art in the making.

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1765102 03/02/15 12:09 AM 03/02/15 12:09 AM
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Dads426 pro stock D Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland	Quote: How many early B-Boyz are on this forum. I had a 64 Plymouth with a fiberglass front bumper and the current 64 Dodge has both front and rear fiberglass. Would love to make aluminum brackets when I have some time. 8445780-OlneyDaysCarShow2008001.jpg (44 downloads) 2012 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2013 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2014 422 Allstars NSS Champion

Re: Mopar Muscle 64 Dodge 330 Project Car [Re: 64hemi330sedan] #1765103 03/02/15 12:32 AM 03/02/15 12:32 AM
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fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	64330hemi. 3306 Lbs. That's rather light for a relatively all steel car. I wish my sedan was that light to start with since with all I've done it is now more or less 3100 with out me in it. I plan to get to the magic 2999 Lbs zone with all metal. That's when I'll be content to pretend to be heavy.

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