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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743185
03/29/15 12:22 AM
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Unfortunately they had the CAM cars run first thing in the AM! I know it sounds like whining but the truth is Mary's Falkens like the cool, and my Hankooks like the heat. Any other run group would have at least given me a fighting chance/ dose of confidence. The course was fast and easy to figure out, the Valiant felt loose in the cold, particularly the first two laps. I was very happy the Valiant squeaked out 2nd place, only behind Mary by 1.3 seconds...


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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743186
03/29/15 11:52 AM
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Unfortunately they had the CAM cars run first thing in the AM! I know it sounds like whining but the truth is Mary's Falkens like the cool, and my Hankooks like the heat. Any other run group would have at least given me a fighting chance/ dose of confidence. The course was fast and easy to figure out, the Valiant felt loose in the cold, particularly the first two laps. I was very happy the Valiant squeaked out 2nd place, only behind Mary by 1.3 seconds...





still a "valiant" effort by you!

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: dangina] #1743187
03/29/15 02:15 PM
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I think it was a conspiracy! Make sure you show all those guys how many stock parts are on your car.


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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: 72Swinger] #1743188
03/31/15 02:46 AM
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Do you have any more pictures or details of how your wheel wells/ opening were modified? I'd like to do something similar to my Demon I'm building and could use some tips.

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743189
04/02/15 02:04 AM
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awesome build. thanks for sharing. i enjoyed reading it

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1805553
04/17/15 12:55 PM
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Ok so next up was the NMCA Hotchkis Autocross at Fontana. Short but fast course. Car felt good, but in these photos I'm noticing more body lean than than is ideal. This was with full stiff on the sway bars and the shocks.

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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1805557
04/17/15 01:01 PM
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The tires were gripping the surface so well the car actually pulled the front wheel on a couple turns... This is where I blame the passenger (MuuMuu).... Just kidding Samy, had a blast with you riding!



Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1805559
04/17/15 01:06 PM
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Unfortunately the finish of this course is what cost me the win, the car could carry so much speed at the finish that the braking area was insufficient to get the car stopped before the "DQ" cones. I ran two laps fast enough to win, but got DQd because I hit a cone after the stop area. The stock 10.75 73+ discs have to go. I ended up in second out of 14 cars by .009, yes 9 thousandths of a second...

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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1805573
04/17/15 01:27 PM
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Sickness Tom! I bet MUuMuu will never be the same again! I wonder if bigger T-bars might be in your future? Or custom sway bars?


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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1805592
04/17/15 01:51 PM
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I got lucky at Woodward!
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You forgot to tell them that you got an award that evening for most DQ's. tonguue He blew straight through the brake zone about 4 or 5 times. I think I ate more cones then him but I kept my car inside the course. laugh2

It was quite amazing, all of the old muscle kept blowing through the brake zone. Most people had to let off right at the end of the slalom because there would have been no way of stopping in time. Although, all of the newer Camaros and Mustangs (4000 lb cars) had plenty of room to stop adequately. Also, the old muscle seemed to have just as good of times as the new muscle.

And you can see my extremely large bicep in some of your photos! penguin

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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: MuuMuu101] #1805711
04/17/15 04:58 PM
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Yep the most DQs and losing by the smallest margin... Two awards ya don't want!


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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1805723
04/17/15 05:15 PM
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Bigger T bars may have to be tried... I like these two pics of Jake Rozelles Vette and I at the same point in the same turn...




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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1805743
04/17/15 05:38 PM
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I got lucky at Woodward!
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I wonder if I have big enough bars. My front end should weigh more than yours with the new engine. work

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1805803
04/17/15 07:35 PM
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Roll Center favors the Vette. A Lot

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1805833
04/17/15 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Dan@Hotchkis
Roll Center favors the Vette. A Lot


Ya whose idea was this Valiant thing anyway?

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1805856
04/17/15 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Tomswheels
Originally Posted By Dan@Hotchkis
Roll Center favors the Vette. A Lot


Ya whose idea was this Valiant thing anyway?


Well quit messing around with date coded stainless hardware and get YOUR Vette going!

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1805883
04/17/15 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Dan@Hotchkis
Originally Posted By Tomswheels
Originally Posted By Dan@Hotchkis
Roll Center favors the Vette. A Lot


Ya whose idea was this Valiant thing anyway?


Well quit messing around with date coded stainless hardware and get YOUR Vette going!


Woah woah woah... From what I heard that is a pristine, numbers matching car. You can't just tear up such a fine example of history and Corvettitude. People will murder him!

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1806172
04/18/15 11:28 AM
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This is why I'm not a numbers matching guy.... I just want to race!

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1806207
04/18/15 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Tomswheels
This is why I'm not a numbers matching guy.... I just want to race!
Is that why you have numbers, that don't match, on the doors?



work laugh2


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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1807895
04/20/15 05:18 PM
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Tom -- since you're car is primarily a smooth-pavement autocross purpose-built car, I highly suggest you get bigger TBs (~1.18 at the minimum, as well as eventually try 1.22, 1.24.. don't make quick decisions.... work with them for a few events/or a season or two, as well as perhaps stiffen the rear leafs... stiffer shocks, bigger sway bars, balance the weight at the corners in competition-ready weight.. with the driver and the approximate load (fuel) you'd be typically running.... it becomes a complete package to be the goal. Remember... your car runs on smooth flat surfaces and is autocross competition intended. Your tires are saying "help me stick so stiffen me up.... prevent excessive lift/dive".


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