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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743065 01/31/15 04:36 PM 01/31/15 04:36 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA Tomswheels OP enthusiast
Tomswheels OP enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	Torsion bars are 1.06 from Dr Diff, rear leafs Hotchkis 8414115-image.jpg (355 downloads)

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743066 01/31/15 04:38 PM 01/31/15 04:38 PM
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Tomswheels OP enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	And again the junkyard $150 8.8, out of a 1995 Mustang GT, 3.08 ratio, with the perches welded so that the Hotchkis leafs bolt up nicely... 8414118-image.jpg (394 downloads) Last edited by Tomswheels; 01/31/15 04:40 PM.

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743067 01/31/15 04:43 PM 01/31/15 04:43 PM
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Tomswheels OP enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	As the car was leaving Yuma, Dan had to due some emergency rear fender clearancing, went for a Hemi Super Sport effect. Unfortunately I didn't think the look was quite right... 8414124-image.jpg (605 downloads)

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743068 01/31/15 04:45 PM 01/31/15 04:45 PM
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Tomswheels OP enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	So it went to another fellow racer, Gerge Reiss of Reiss Racing, for rear fender surgery... 8414127-image.jpg (365 downloads)

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743069 01/31/15 04:47 PM 01/31/15 04:47 PM
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Tomswheels OP enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	George made some relief cuts in the fenders, welded the lip back on, pushed it out with a pneumatic jack. Note the inches-thick previously applied body filler... 8414132-image.jpg (402 downloads) Last edited by Tomswheels; 01/31/15 05:53 PM.

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743070 01/31/15 05:42 PM 01/31/15 05:42 PM
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Tomswheels OP enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	You can see how George modified the fender line behind the door as the Fender bulges out around the rear tire. He did similar pneumatic work on the front fenders and gained about 3/4 of an inch up front. In the Rear we have almost 14 inches of rear fender lip to leaf spring clearance. I started thinking about how much more tire we could get in there... 8414172-image.jpg (690 downloads) Last edited by Tomswheels; 01/31/15 06:32 PM.

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743071 01/31/15 07:30 PM 01/31/15 07:30 PM
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buconine enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne	stock fuel tank? Looks like the same gas cap i'm running and i'm sloshing gas everywhere...lol. Thanks for this post!

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: buconine] #1743072 01/31/15 08:46 PM 01/31/15 08:46 PM
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Tomswheels OP enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	Quote: stock fuel tank? Looks like the same gas cap i'm running and i'm sloshing gas everywhere...lol. Thanks for this post! Funny you should mention that, same problem on first couple laps. Uncontrollable fuel out the cap issues, and since the spare tire well was a bit crusty anyway... 8414408-image.jpg (359 downloads)

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743073 01/31/15 08:48 PM 01/31/15 08:48 PM
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Tomswheels OP enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	Found a 17 Gallon cell on Amazon for $225... 8414410-image.jpg (338 downloads)

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: MuuMuu101] #1743074 01/31/15 09:43 PM 01/31/15 09:43 PM
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Tomswheels OP enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	Quote: Yep, I watched Tom race the Valiant back when he first got it back together (running tiny 265/35/18's at the time) and he definitely had one of the top laps compared to most other high budget builds. Yep Samy was at the Valiants first event, a shakedown run at the Hotchkis NMCA Autocross in Fontana last year. The car finished in the upper third of the Classic car class, and I learned a lot about it. 8414480-image.jpg (308 downloads) Last edited by Tomswheels; 02/01/15 02:07 AM.

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743075 01/31/15 09:48 PM 01/31/15 09:48 PM
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Tomswheels OP enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	I learned on the positive side that I love the feel of the Borgeson box. For all of its fitment issues, it it simply a better steering feel than my firm feel stage 3 ever was. At this Autocross the alignment was way out of whack, and I discovered that even with a 3.08 rear, first gear is so low (numerically high) in the A833 OD that it is fairly useless at Autocrossing. The whole course was basically run in 2nd gear, at very low RPMs... 8414487-image.jpg (314 downloads)

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743076 01/31/15 11:35 PM 01/31/15 11:35 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward! Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal	Despite that, IIRC, Tom's fasted lap for the day was his first lap with the car.

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: MuuMuu101] #1743077 02/01/15 01:23 AM 02/01/15 01:23 AM
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Tomswheels OP enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	Next event was one of our local SCCA San Diego autocrosses. We are fortunate to have a big lot and and great group of Classic American Muscle (CAM) cars that show up to each event. 8414763-image.jpg (288 downloads)

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743078 02/01/15 01:27 AM 02/01/15 01:27 AM
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Tomswheels OP enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	The Valiant is still under powered compared to most of these cars, but after a racy alignment, the front grip was much better. I was just starting to play with the Hotchkis/Fox adjustables, at this event. Previously my Barracuda liked a lot of front sway bar but no rear, so I started full stiff on the Valiant front shocks, with both the rear shocks and rear sway bar full soft. Finished third out of thirteen, rear end still felt a bit loose. 8414768-image.jpg (362 downloads) Last edited by Tomswheels; 02/01/15 01:32 AM.

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743079 02/01/15 10:26 AM 02/01/15 10:26 AM
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Uhcoog1 super stock Joined: May 2005 Posts: 723 Houston Tx	Great thread and nice car! -'02 Dodge Viper Ex-World Challenge racecar -'73 Duster, 6.1 based 392 hilborn hemi, tko600, full floater rear 9", Hellwig custom bars, viper brakes, built for road course

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Uhcoog1] #1743080 02/02/15 01:58 AM 02/02/15 01:58 AM
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Tomswheels OP enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	Quote: Great thread and nice car! Thanks, hope this isn't boring anyone, just want to share what I've learned so far. Next event was another CAM battle at our local SCCA. I tried some different used tires (265/35/18 Dunlop Z2) and tried midway between firm and soft on rear shocks. 8416398-image.jpg (327 downloads)

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743081 02/02/15 02:02 AM 02/02/15 02:02 AM
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Tomswheels OP enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	Oversteer felt better, I think the car liked the stiffer setting on the shocks. I also think the Dunlops are just a touch stickier than the same size Falken RT615 k, though both tires perform better cool, neither like a lot of abuse. At this event the junkyard 8.8 started acting up and the limited slip was going away early and often. Finished 2nd out of 12 muscle cars, just a half second off 1st... 8416405-image.jpg (285 downloads) Last edited by Tomswheels; 02/02/15 02:06 AM.

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743082 02/02/15 01:56 PM 02/02/15 01:56 PM
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Mopar Mitch pro stock Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,443 NW Chicago suburban area	Tom -- very nice sharing your progress, etc. Mopar Mitch "Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers! Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Mopar Mitch] #1743083 02/02/15 06:00 PM 02/02/15 06:00 PM
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BigBlockMopar master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands	I like these kind of topics and not boring at all. Only thing I'm (still) wondering about is why you've been running with the bare front on the car? Whenever I see pics of the car it always seems to me like you've been in a frontal crash a day before and decided run it unrepaired anyway. I does however make the car more easily recognizable though.. BigBlockMopar.com

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1743084 02/02/15 06:02 PM 02/02/15 06:02 PM
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 841 Santa Fe Springs, CA Dan@Hotchkis super stock
Dan@Hotchkis super stock Joined: May 2012 Posts: 841 Santa Fe Springs, CA	Quote: I like these kind of topics and not boring at all. Only thing I'm (still) wondering about is why you've been running with the bare front on the car? Whenever I see pics of the car it always seems to me like you've been in a frontal crash a day before and decided run it unrepaired anyway. I does however make the car more easily recognizable though.. Its a real car now, and trust me, you'll recognize it when you see it

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