Re: Nostalgia Race at Beaver Springs
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Re: Nostalgia Race at Beaver Springs
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Those 422 Motorsports boys have been the big gorilla in eastern NSS racing for a while now. It's time to square things up, and for all of us to do some Ford huntin'
I had a tenth on their big gun a blue A/FX Falcon last year at Beaver for a macth race but they got saved by the rain. This year I will have even more for them to deal with and knock them off their tower
Fred, you mean this one??
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Re: Nostalgia Race at Beaver Springs
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12/25/08 11:53 PM
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steve, 422 motorsports is the smallest of all the nostalgia super stockers on the east coast. nobody really wants to race with them with there nasty nose up in the air attitude and there steep admission fee, i always pass when they send me there flyer. as far as racing at beaver springs, id really like a all mopar race there and a race at pittsburgh. 2 classes,one true nss class and a modified class, all mopars then will be happy and have a king of the hill runoff. thats what i think would work.
I spoke with two 422 team members, the white haired guy below who did our pairings and another member who was "recruiting" members to join their organization. From my 2 encouters, both seemed very nice. Im going to go out on a limb here and say...these guys (422) do play a part in Beaver Bobs event and are Ford guys, they're probably pretty tight. Out of mere curiousity I had to go over and look at their team cars. Maybe a little green eyed in myself who knows, it does appear to be a high dollar operation. One things for sure at the starting line that day when they were dropping like flies, I was one of the ones smiling. SSHHHH....dont tell Beaver Bob!!
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Re: Nostalgia Race at Beaver Springs
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12/26/08 01:26 AM
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Ron, Im familiar with the car your brother pilots. Very nice Stock Eliminator car if Im not mistaken? One of the rules 422 has and this can be an advantage one day and hurt you the next is: At least at BSD they do a zero ending dial. Meaning your dial has to end in 0 regardless of your cars performance during time shots. During the York 30 Nationals we were running 9.71 & 72s all day. This was a no brainer according to their rules. We did our dial at 9.70 We never got to run first round of eliminations because of the rain. During Flash Back Friday..same rules applied. However this time we were running 9.54, 9.55 during time shots. We decided to go with a 9.50 As luck would have it we got matched up with a faster car and was a former National Champ. The only way we were going to win was to beat her at the light and that didnt happen. She ran a near perfect run RT & dial. She earned it, we did not. Yes giving away 1/2 tenth hurt us before the lights even dropped but doing the math we would have lost anyway. Doug
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Re: Nostalgia Race at Beaver Springs
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12/26/08 09:08 AM
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the rules are always setup in favor of 422 motorsports,its there rules either play by them or dont race with them.its like gambling in a casino, house usually wins.there cars are setup to dial in with the 0.they practice all year to make them run their number. i dont race to dial a 0 in,so its a crap shoot. i have however numerous times put many of 422 motorsports on the trailer.they are sore losers,they whine like little pussies. either way i dont like there attitudes or style so i pass when i hear they are promoting a race. i want to have fun not fight.
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Re: Nostalgia Race at Beaver Springs
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12/26/08 10:00 AM
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Initially they do seem to be a bit arrogant, but once you get to know them they are good guys. Dink Bishop, the big white haired guy is a goodie, this inspite of the fact that they are from that Philly, Sewell NJ ( )area. Seriously, they are good guys. They are very touchy, though, in not compromising the past in any way they don't have too. In the old days, you had a tenth cushion where you could run under your index (dial) and it took an act of congress and some controversy to change it. Ditto the 0 on the end of your dial. They are good, and they know it. They have deep pockets, and they know that, too. One of those cars actually has a Cammer in it, which has got to be one of the most expensive motors around to run. I don't even know anyone who makes parts for one. I am truly sorry that Fred didn't get a chance to take out that Falcon last year. It would have been cool.
"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
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Re: Nostalgia Race at Beaver Springs
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12/26/08 10:22 AM
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The CARLAN-SORGE POLL has finally got posted. PLEASE vote so we can get the ball rolling on this GREAT PLAN. Thanks to everyone in advance.
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Re: Nostalgia Race at Beaver Springs
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12/26/08 11:49 AM
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422 Motorsports rules are directly from the NMCA. For those not familiar the NMCA is the sanctioning body that basically started Nostalgia Super Stock racing in the late '80s. As far as the dial ending in 0, NSS is index racing not bracket racing. Just the same as NHRA super gas and super comp in some ways. NHRA doesn't allow a SG racer to change their index from 9:90 to 9:92 or 9:89 to suit their car. They run on a 9:90 index. Once you qualify at a NSS race and post your index that is what you are locked into. It is and added challenge to this type of racing. As far as some people on here bashing the 422 Motorsports group, thats fine just don't race with them. At Maple Grove in October we had over 30 cars and it was a blast. If you win the first round you are in the money. They also have a great all you can eat feed for the racers and crews. They all have a touch of the Philli/south Jersey attitude but thats where they are from. Rich LaMount, Dink Bishop and Fred Henderson are all good guys. They will help you with anything they can at the track. I enjoy beating their cars at the track too but I also like beating everyone else!!! And by the way, they no longer run a cammer. All of their cars including the Falcon run wedges.
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Re: Nostalgia Race at Beaver Springs
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12/26/08 12:11 PM
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I stand corrected, Jody. I was not aware that the Cammer had been replaced. They are good guys!!! Absolutely, and they work hard at keeping the rules so that it doesn't come across as just another bracket race. I enjoy meeting them and hanging at the BSD events.....but we may have a Throwdown coming (in the words of Bobby Flay). I hope we can work it out!! As far as the Philly/Jersey area goes....just a reminder that our good pal Hemi Fred is from down there and we don't know if he is indicative of the natives down there. Seriously.....I really hope we can work this out.
"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
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Re: Nostalgia Race at Beaver Springs
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I stand corrected, Jody. I was not aware that the Cammer had been replaced.
They are good guys!!! Absolutely, and they work hard at keeping the rules so that it doesn't come across as just another bracket race. I enjoy meeting them and hanging at the BSD events.....but we may have a Throwdown coming (in the words of Bobby Flay). I hope we can work it out!!
As far as the Philly/Jersey area goes....just a reminder that our good pal Hemi Fred is from down there and we don't know if he is indicative of the natives down there.
Seriously.....I really hope we can work this out.
That I was with HemiFred might explain my reaction to them.I trust Steve's opinion .If Steve says they are good guys,thats's good enough for me.
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Re: Nostalgia Race at Beaver Springs
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That is an idea, as well. So are flag starts?
Keep those suggestions coming. The "committees" will meet, and sort of work out an agreement.
"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
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Re: Nostalgia Race at Beaver Springs
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12/26/08 03:06 PM
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That is an idea, as well. So are flag starts?
Keep those suggestions coming. The "committees" will meet, and sort of work out an agreement.
Flag starts is an option on the "POLL thread"
But I guess only the matchraces should be "flag" starts.
Getting LOTS of votes though Just make sure everyone votes.PLZ. Link to vote is listed below.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post4902252
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