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Re: S60 or M60 ?? [Re: Quicktree] #1740166
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ummmm strange 9"+ anything else a waste of money




Build us a comparable 9" street/strip rear end right here in this thread and show us how it's done. I'm all ears.


who cares the guy asked for a rear for a 1200hp drag car. and it can be done cheap for a street strip. just as easy as a dana.




Money /= to where mouth is

Build it or stop running your mouth.

Re: S60 or M60 ?? [Re: Jeremiah] #1740167
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ummmm strange 9"+ anything else a waste of money




Build us a comparable 9" street/strip rear end right here in this thread and show us how it's done. I'm all ears.


who cares the guy asked for a rear for a 1200hp drag car. and it can be done cheap for a street strip. just as easy as a dana.




Money /= to where mouth is

Build it or stop running your mouth.


go back and read and quit running your mouth.

Re: S60 or M60 ?? [Re: Quicktree] #1740168
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why don't you stop by all the ss/ah guys and see what they run and why.




I've used em both, nothing wrong with either, but as has been mentioned, it simply depends on your application/requirements/power levels/budget.

Pro racers likely use the 9" more exclusively :

i. they likely have sponsors who pay for a lot of it
ii. they change gearing more easily for different tunes/track
conditions/classes
iii. the aftermarket caters more thoroughly for the 9" for
different applications

Ain't nothing wrong with either choice - no need to flame each other about it


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why don't you stop by all the ss/ah guys and see what they run and why.




I've used em both, nothing wrong with either, but as has been mentioned, it simply depends on your application/requirements/power levels/budget.

Pro racers likely use the 9" more exclusively :

i. they likely have sponsors who pay for a lot of it
ii. they change gearing more easily for different tunes/track
conditions/classes
iii. the aftermarket caters more thoroughly for the 9" for
different applications

Ain't nothing wrong with either choice - no need to flame each other about it




hey I agree,as you can see these guys attack anyone with a different opinion. how we get to a build a street/strip setup from a 1200hp race car I don't know. it has been explained numerous times by people who actually deal in high HP race cars. and dana 60 is not in the conversation. to advise someone to go that route is beyond me. it has been said before the dana has it's place just like all the rest.

Re: S60 or M60 ?? [Re: Quicktree] #1740170
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]hey I agree,as you can see these guys attack anyone with a different opinion. how we get to a build a street/strip setup from a 1200hp race car I don't know. it has been explained numerous times by people who actually deal in high HP race cars. and dana 60 is not in the conversation. to advise someone to go that route is beyond me. it has been said before the dana has it's place just like all the rest.




I'm betting the "Pros" are using 9.5" rears.

Quicktree did they have reading comprehension when you were school, or did you make up your own questions for your tests? Nah.......the teacher probably came to you for advise on curriculum. .

Once again the question was S-60 of M60, no mention of a 9". Don't be a troll!

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]hey I agree,as you can see these guys attack anyone with a different opinion. how we get to a build a street/strip setup from a 1200hp race car I don't know. it has been explained numerous times by people who actually deal in high HP race cars. and dana 60 is not in the conversation. to advise someone to go that route is beyond me. it has been said before the dana has it's place just like all the rest.




I'm betting the "Pros" are using 9.5" rears.

Quicktree did they have reading comprehension when you were school, or did you make up your own questions for your tests? Nah.......the teacher probably came to you for advise on curriculum. .

Once again the question was S-60 of M60, no mention of a 9". Don't be a troll!


you just proved my point again,obviously the OP asked a question,maybe he was unaware of his choices and to give him a narrow minded answer is not what this board is about. call it what ever you want. your attacks serve no purpose so who is the troll?

Re: S60 or M60 ?? [Re: Quicktree] #1740172
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You guys are forgetting the wonderful 8 3/4 rear...............


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Re: S60 or M60 ?? [Re: Quicktree] #1740173
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I seriously doubt that anyone that's serious about having a fast high HP car has never heard of a 9 or 9.5" rear, but I've been wrong before.

All anyone has to do is search for and read your posts, then come to their own conclusion on the troll thing. We are entitled to our opinions so please carry on.

Dom, don't you know that an 8 3/4 isn't needed until you reach 2000 HP in a 4000 pound car.

Re: S60 or M60 ?? [Re: justinp61] #1740174
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I know, I went backwards..................This has become Yellowbullet w/out the cussing and cactus jokes............


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Re: S60 or M60 ?? [Re: Thumperdart] #1740175
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Other then more personal jabs, anybody got anything informative to add about S or M -60's?


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: S60 or M60 ?? [Re: jcc] #1740176
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I haven't done the research on the Dana in years, but if they are built right, either should work at 1200HP. The Dana is every bit as strong as the 9" IMO. The 9" is just easier to change gear sets with more options.
It's 727TF vs PG argument. If both are built with the right parts, they last.

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Other then more personal jabs, anybody got anything informative to add about S or M -60's?





No personal jabs here.............just stating the obvious. People ask a question then certain people turn it into crazy land that`s all...............Peace out!


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Re: S60 or M60 ?? [Re: camastomcat] #1740178
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I haven't done the research on the Dana in years, but if they are built right, either should work at 1200HP. The Dana is every bit as strong as the 9" IMO. The 9" is just easier to change gear sets with more options.
It's 727TF vs PG argument. If both are built with the right parts, they last.


thats not true, the tubes can not be supported on the 60, there lies your problem. ask Monte or AL or some of the other guys who actually know about them.

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I haven't done the research on the Dana in years, but if they are built right, either should work at 1200HP. The Dana is every bit as strong as the 9" IMO. The 9" is just easier to change gear sets with more options.
It's 727TF vs PG argument. If both are built with the right parts, they last.


thats not true, the tubes can not be supported on the 60, there lies your problem. ask Monte or AL or some of the other guys who actually know about them.




I've run both, and both have lived. In the old T/F cars that made way in excess of 1200 HP, some of those cars used Dana's. Your opinion isn't the only on that counts and I don't need to ask Monte or Al, I know from being at the track the last 45 years. Don't be such a Richard.

Re: S60 or M60 ?? [Re: Quicktree] #1740180
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ummmm strange 9"+ anything else a waste of money




Build us a comparable 9" street/strip rear end right here in this thread and show us how it's done. I'm all ears.


who cares the guy asked for a rear for a 1200hp drag car. and it can be done cheap for a street strip. just as easy as a dana.




Money /= to where mouth is

Build it or stop running your mouth.


go back and read and quit running your mouth.




As usual you can't or won't back up your snide innuendos. I'd really like to know the parts list for a stout 9" because I am at a cross roads with one of my cars. And yes, the rear I build will be aimed at a high hp, heavy car. I keep asking myself why go Dana when the 9" stuff is pretty common. Don't get mad just answer the question(s) without the attitude.

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I haven't done the research on the Dana in years, but if they are built right, either should work at 1200HP. The Dana is every bit as strong as the 9" IMO. The 9" is just easier to change gear sets with more options.
It's 727TF vs PG argument. If both are built with the right parts, they last.


thats not true, the tubes can not be supported on the 60, there lies your problem. ask Monte or AL or some of the other guys who actually know about them.




I've run both, and both have lived. In the old T/F cars that made way in excess of 1200 HP, some of those cars used Dana's. Your opinion isn't the only on that counts and I don't need to ask Monte or Al, I know from being at the track the last 45 years. Don't be such a Richard.




If you were going to start fresh today and did not plan on frequent gear ratio changes which would you choose? Pound for pound I think the Dana costs less? The benefit of the 9" is less weight? What am I missing?

Re: S60 or M60 ?? [Re: Jeremiah] #1740182
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I haven't done the research on the Dana in years, but if they are built right, either should work at 1200HP. The Dana is every bit as strong as the 9" IMO. The 9" is just easier to change gear sets with more options.
It's 727TF vs PG argument. If both are built with the right parts, they last.


thats not true, the tubes can not be supported on the 60, there lies your problem. ask Monte or AL or some of the other guys who actually know about them.




I've run both, and both have lived. In the old T/F cars that made way in excess of 1200 HP, some of those cars used Dana's. Your opinion isn't the only on that counts and I don't need to ask Monte or Al, I know from being at the track the last 45 years. Don't be such a Richard.




If you were going to start fresh today and did not plan on frequent gear ratio changes which would you choose? Pound for pound I think the Dana costs less? The benefit of the 9" is less weight? What am I missing?




I'm not a self professed expert on which to choose, but I have an opinion based on the years in the sport. You pretty much summed it up. If you're not concerned with weight and ease of gear changes, and it's a heavy car, I personally would opt for the Dana. Again, JMO. Monte, Al or others, may have another opinion on this.

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ummmm strange 9"+ anything else a waste of money




Build us a comparable 9" street/strip rear end right here in this thread and show us how it's done. I'm all ears.


who cares the guy asked for a rear for a 1200hp drag car. and it can be done cheap for a street strip. just as easy as a dana.



Money /= to where mouth is

Build it or stop running your mouth.


go back and read and quit running your mouth.




As usual you can't or won't back up your snide innuendos. I'd really like to know the parts list for a stout 9" because I am at a cross roads with one of my cars. And yes, the rear I build will be aimed at a high hp, heavy car. I keep asking myself why go Dana when the 9" stuff is pretty common. Don't get mad just answer the question(s) without the attitude.


you are full of crap, I explained how to build one on a budget. you can get a new housing for less than $500 to any size. you can get a complete center section that will probably handle anything you have for $1300 add the axles and you are at the same price as a NEW 60. go the used route and way less depending on how much you can do yourself. get on ebay and look, it's easy

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imagine that, housing and axles just popped up the for sale section, so for less than 2k you could have a complete 9

New Moser 9" Ford housing with like new 35 spline axles with bearings and 5/8" wheel studs. Housing is 32" housing end to housing end. Housing has symmetrical ends (3.15 bearings) on it along with Moser fill cap and drain in bottom. Axles are 4 1/2" bolt pattern and have flanges profile cut. $600 plus shipping

Located in central Ohio more photos available . Can deliver to up coming Columbus or Indy Mopar swap meet. PM here or call 614-491-8508 between 5-9pm EST Mon-Fri anytime on Checks and Money Orders OK no Paypal

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