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Re: Hesitation ??
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02/01/15 02:58 AM
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initial is right about 10 and total of right about 35/36.
did wind up putting a A/F meter on it and WOT is at 12.5/13
Cruise is at 12.5, so I will work on jetting
Still has the miss that I think is a ignition issue
Got a dampner that has 2 marks on it
footbrake N/A SB 408 Scamp 10.10 @ 132 street/strip
73 Duster 340 street strip 12.79 @ 105
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Re: Hesitation ??
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02/01/15 09:43 AM
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initial is right about 10 and total of right about 35/36.
did wind up putting a A/F meter on it and WOT is at 12.5/13
Cruise is at 12.5, so I will work on jetting
Still has the miss that I think is a ignition issue
Got a dampner that has 2 marks on it
you need to jack that initial up to around 18-22* 10 is not enough imo
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Re: Hesitation ??
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02/01/15 12:24 PM
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initial is right about 10 and total of right about 35/36.
did wind up putting a A/F meter on it and WOT is at 12.5/13
Cruise is at 12.5, so I will work on jetting
Still has the miss that I think is a ignition issue
Got a dampner that has 2 marks on it
Jetting ISN`T tuning only controlling the VOLUME of fuel............you need to TUNE the emultion well, t-slot jet(u need 1)idle bl, hi etc. You will not be happy until someone who knows what`s up TUNES it for ya or learn how yourself...........you can do it! 
carb tuning doesn't even start until all the basics are taken care of. with 10* initial it has not. 
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Re: Hesitation ??
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02/01/15 12:43 PM
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initial is right about 10 and total of right about 35/36.
did wind up putting a A/F meter on it and WOT is at 12.5/13
Cruise is at 12.5, so I will work on jetting
Still has the miss that I think is a ignition issue
Got a dampner that has 2 marks on it
you need to jack that initial up to around 18-22* 10 is not enough imo
 you have to get the base timing up.. but
your gonna have to curve the dist so you reduce the
total timing to get what you need for max... this was
said earlier on the timing
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Re: Hesitation ??
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02/01/15 02:05 PM
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I agree about more initial so let`s see how that solves the crappy tunes of carbs today cos I`m sure when he brings it up to where you think it should be, it will be perfect..............
maybe not, but im not trying to sell carb tunes either...
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Re: Hesitation ??
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02/01/15 03:20 PM
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couple of other things
put a vacuum gauge on it and its at 20 at idle and 50 at about 2500.
I agree on getting the timing down first, I have 3 different timing lights and all 3 give slightly different readings, plus the junk dampner marks
This motor is in the Duster, more of a street car
footbrake N/A SB 408 Scamp 10.10 @ 132 street/strip
73 Duster 340 street strip 12.79 @ 105
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Re: Hesitation ??
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02/01/15 05:20 PM
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initial is right about 10 and total of right about 35/36.
did wind up putting a A/F meter on it and WOT is at 12.5/13
Cruise is at 12.5, so I will work on jetting
Still has the miss that I think is a ignition issue
Got a dampner that has 2 marks on it
Your picture shows your timing at 10* AFTER tdc not before. That's 20* from where you think it is.
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Re: Hesitation ??
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02/01/15 05:43 PM
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I agree about more initial so let`s see how that solves the crappy tunes of carbs today cos I`m sure when he brings it up to where you think it should be, it will be perfect..............
maybe not, but im not trying to sell carb tunes either...
IF you knew how you definitely would but talkin and banterin and chest pounding seem to be easier than actually doin something................ 
By the way, I`m not sellng tune ups I`m selling RESULTS..............
I am not pounding anything, when I see a direct side by side comparison I will be the first to congratulate you. what puzzles me is all these years you never talked about being a carb guy then all of a sudden you can get .2 form a few tweaks. and maybe so not putting you down in any way. I just want some proof, is that to much to ask? I am not talking about some guys project or one way off. one that runs somewhat well and a thumper tweak back to back results. then I will 
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Re: Hesitation ??
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02/01/15 06:23 PM
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I don`t NEED to prove anything to you and no longer care if I ever build one for you or not cos it`s those "open minded" people that get it and THOSE are the customers I need and appreciate and funny enuff, they appreciate me back...........
 ok ok to be honest I wouldn't let just anybody go drilling and messing with my carbs. I hope the best for you. you have a great running car and I always pull for you. I am glad it works for you but I can't help wondering and I am not the only one so good luck don't be mad...
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Re: Hesitation ??
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02/01/15 07:13 PM
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initial is right about 10 and total of right about 35/36.
did wind up putting a A/F meter on it and WOT is at 12.5/13
Cruise is at 12.5, so I will work on jetting
Still has the miss that I think is a ignition issue
Got a dampner that has 2 marks on it
Your picture shows your timing at 10* AFTER tdc not before. That's 20* from where you think it is.
That was just a pic to show the 2 marker lines
So which one is zero... you should have marked the
zero when you degreed your cam
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Re: Hesitation ??
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02/01/15 08:10 PM
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initial is right about 10 and total of right about 35/36.
did wind up putting a A/F meter on it and WOT is at 12.5/13
Cruise is at 12.5, so I will work on jetting
Still has the miss that I think is a ignition issue
Got a dampner that has 2 marks on it
Your picture shows your timing at 10* AFTER tdc not before. That's 20* from where you think it is.
That was just a pic to show the 2 marker lines
So which one is zero... you should have marked the
zero when you degreed your cam
Car was bought as is, so I am just getting to know all of its quirks. Who knows if the cam was degreed or not, hopefully so
and GO HAWKS
got $20 on the Hawks
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